CBS, and Paramount suing (Star Trek) Axanar to kill it.

[transmaster]

CBS, and Paramount who own the Star Trek franchise are suing the (Star Trek) Axanar production company to put it out of business. It seems both are coming out with their own Star Trek, and Deep Space 9 TV shows and they don't want Axanar horning in, big surprise. Not much is known about what they are going to do with these TV series. You can see the Axanar teasers on YouTube once you watch them you will see why CBS, and Paramount are trying to close them down. The whole premise of Axanar is good, early days of the Federation and the Klingon's decide to invade. The Federation has no star ships that can go up against Klingon war ships, The Star Ship Axanar is a war ship built to fight the Klingon's. The Axanar's technology and more goes into the Constitution class star ships that came afterwards, The original Enterprise is a Constitution class star ship. CBS, and Paramount executives seem to think that they can put warp engines on a outhouse call it Star Trek they will have a smash hit with zombie Trekkie's but they don't want a Babylon 5 quality show interfering with that zombie fan base, it's the advertising don't ya know.

 

[Dukiedook]

Well, the company that holds the rights can do what they please. They should have received permission from Paramount.

 

[transmaster]

Well, the company that holds the rights can do what they please. They should have received permission from Paramount.

They did, they had an agreement that since this was a fan financed product not intended to make money they could proceed, and there where indications that Axanar was going to be picked up by one of the principles. But but CBS, and Paramount reneged on this agreement when the Star Trek reboot movies where successful. Both own their own production companies and don't want pay an outsider. This just illustrates the cut-throat nature of the media entertainment industry. I have not watched state side network TV in over 20 years and any new Star Trek show will not tempt me to return.

 

[dzkfraser]

Old news. Too bad, Axanar looked to be pretty good, something by fans for fans with great production values

 

[Falstaff]

I wonder if this will effect the Star Trek Continues web series?

 

[dzkfraser]

There was something posted online a while back that listed the guidlines CBS required for fan based productions. They were veerrryy restrictive, to the point of why bother.

 

[transmaster]

Old news. Too bad, Axanar looked to be pretty good, something by fans for fans with great production values

Well it is, and it isn't the Axanar product group thought they had things resolved, but it turned out they didn't.

 

[SoundOfSound]

Is CBS still owned by SONY?

 

[transmaster]

Is CBS still owned by SONY?

Only the CBS recording division and it's music catalog. It was purchased by Sony along with a bunch of other recording labels, RCA etc in the late 1980's. Sony was looking for content for the new CD format and the US labels where eager to unload their unprofitable music divisions. Sony smiled all of the way back to Japan with their purchases. When the CD format took off in the US guess who owned most of the content.

 

[SoundOfSound]

You're correct, now I remember.

I think somewhere along the line Viacom bought out Paramount and CBS television/film and then renamed itself CBS after all was said and done.

Of course CBS has a long and convoluted history so I may be of by a company or two.

Gives you a headache if you try to make sense out of it.

 

[transmaster]

You're correct, now I remember.

I think somewhere along the line Viacom bought out Paramount and CBS television/film and then renamed itself CBS after all was said and done.

Of course CBS has a long and convoluted history so I may be of by a company or two.

Gives you a headache if you try to make sense out of it.

I tried, the Wiki is so confusing I gave up. The bottom line with this whole topic is this industry has been, stealing, scamming, backstabbing, suing, screwing over actors, writers, producers, crew, the public since the very beginning, and they are not going change anytime soon. There is a famous statement from Hollywood, You can always tell when a Hollywood producer is being honest, they are dead.

 

[SoundOfSound]

True, I once read an article about how the record companies wanted Apple to stop releasing sales numbers for downloads. They didn't want anybody to figure out how much music they were selling.

 

[transmaster]

True, I once read an article about how the record companies wanted Apple to stop releasing sales numbers for downloads. They didn't want anybody to figure out how much music they were selling.

That was because Apple sold music one track at a time. The practice the music industry did at the time was they would put one good track on an album, and fill the rest with flip side junk. what iTunes did was crash the sales of Albums.


But is gets even better then that. Steve Jobs was talking with recording industry executives he was looking for content for his new iPod. Even those he was the CEO of Apple they treated him like a homeless bum off the street. At one point in the negotiations Steve asked these executives who their customer where, looking down their noses at this bumpkin and told him Kmart, Walmart, Bestbuy etc. Steve told the person in this interview that he left the meeting with a big smile on his face he knew he had them because they had forgotten who their real customer was. The music industry magnanimously granted permission for iTunes to begin. The knew because they held all of the rights to the music content they had Apple by the 'nads. iTunes exploded, music industry started their usual bait and switch routine. We want more money or we will shut you down, Apple answer; go pound sand, We are going to withdraw all of are music if you don't give use more more money, Apple; go pound sand.Then the bean counters at the recording companies pointed out how much money they where making from iTunes. It was then the recording industry realized who had who.