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Cerwin Vega 217r for free

They will get along famously. If I'm not mistaken those are the models rumored to survive being plugged straight into the wall.
These are my first CV speakers also my first type of speaker with horns as the midrange and tweeter drivers. Never dabbled with horns so this will be new to me. Hooked 1 up and was impressed with the sound but found I needed to tame the treble some. I'll have to see when the foam arrives and the speakers are set up. Then I will make a judgment. Super excited to get these up and running. Cant believe someone plugged these into a wall lolol. Huge magnets on the speakers.
 
They aren't what I would call true "horn" speakers but I guess the next step beyond the usual dome speakers for sure. They've pretty much always used that style tweeter it seems.
 
So I cracked the backs open of the speakers to clean them out. Foams not arrived yet but was able to test 1 speakers as it still has the foam in tact (the grey foam) Found that neither the mid horn or tweeters were working because both fuses were blown. Replaced the fuses and all drivers work. However the tweeter control does not work at all. I had to by pass the control knob. I have never had to replace a control pot before. Is there anything in particular I need to know about replacing one? I have tried the contact control cleaner and it worked to fix scratchy mid, but the tweeter dial is shot I believe. Thank you all.
It is working. Your tweeter is actually a super tweeter that goes really high in the frequency range. I thought both of my tweeters were out on my 317p’s until I listened closely and unplugged the mid horn.
 
These are my first CV speakers also my first type of speaker with horns as the midrange and tweeter drivers. Never dabbled with horns so this will be new to me. Hooked 1 up and was impressed with the sound but found I needed to tame the treble some. I'll have to see when the foam arrives and the speakers are set up. Then I will make a judgment. Super excited to get these up and running. Cant believe someone plugged these into a wall lolol. Huge magnets on the speakers.
About plugging them into the wall... that was a rumor though a popular one at the time. They were known as big, loud party speakers that would go all night long and still be good the next day. CV had printed on the shipping boxes, 'loud is good if it's clean'... I think those were the exact words. I'm waiting to hear your thoughts when the woofers are done... if memory served me well the listening experience was greatly affected by their distance from the back wall, the R standing for reflecting, the rearward firing horn.
 
next step beyond the usual dome speakers for sure
Yes that is really what I ment. I have seen pictures of the horn systems; nothing like these but for me, they are my only metal horn speakers I have. The rest have dome tweeters. :)

It is working. Your tweeter is actually a super tweeter that goes really high in the frequency range. I thought both of my tweeters were out on my 317p’s until I listened closely and unplugged the mid horn.
Thanks for that info. Didn't know that about the tweeters however, there is for some issue with the control dial. Its not passing signal through.

About plugging them into the wall... that was a rumor though a popular one at the time. They were known as big, loud party speakers that would go all night long and still be good the next day. CV had printed on the shipping boxes, 'loud is good if it's clean'... I think those were the exact words
Haha I can see how a rumor like that would get around. They are huge speakers, can see why they are loud. Just using the one sounded pretty good, but its just in the middle of the floor, not up against a wall. I did read that placement is key. Someone posted something about that form a flyer. I plan on having them in a corner at an angle.
 
Update. So I took apart the control pot and found there to be no signal passing from the center piece. I managed to make it work again using the same parts. I just made a jumper wire, bypassing the center spindle area where signal should be passing through but isn't. Attached it to the sweeper and it works again. I'm assuming the same issue is happening on the other speaker but for the midrange horn. Havent checked yet but, here are some pics. Hope everyone is having a great evening.
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You could have done that bypass from the outside, too. Not having any output before means there could be a break in that "coil" of wire inside. If you have a meter, you could check for continuity from one side to the other. They are pesky for sure.
 
You could have done that bypass from the outside, too
I actually did have it hooked up that way but the tweeters were just fully on. The control had no affect on them
The control works this way. I can adjust it with the knob from the outside. Somehow the pole piece is not transmitting signal through. I initially thought the coil as well, and I actually checked that first lol.
 
Morning. Thanks everyone so much for all your input. really appreciated and makes projects fun. Glad there are lots of others out there who appreciate audio stuff like this. Way awesome. Thanx again. Foams have arrived and speakers have been restored fully. New poly fill on the inside as well. Here are the pics as promised. I must say listening to these speakers together I so far am impressed with the sound. Bass is out of this world, almost unbelievable. Found that I have to have both my Tweeter control and Midrange control to max for tonal balance. I'll re visit this page again after I spend a few days listening to them. ** Glad I choose red foam. Looks cool on the speakers lol.
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Looking good!

Throw some Bachman Turner Overdrive at them.

Try some Heart.

ZZ Top. "Thug" Exercise those new surrounds, especially at the very end. Nasty bass guitar!

Rock on! :)
 
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Morning. So been listening to these speakers for a few days. Had them on almost the entire weekend. played music of all types, even 1950s jams. Must say these handled everything with ease. The bass output is what surprised me. I can actually feel these speakers even at low levels and its not boomy bass. Usually I'm not a fan of ported speakers as I do not like the bass they output. These have deep bass. Was surprised. Even 1950s music had some bottom end to it. Could not believe. Still playing around with positioning of these, they are in the corners, on stands and a few inches, like 6 away from the wall. Not at a full angle but sligltly angled. Only complaint I have so far is that they need a bit more treble, course that could be because I have not changed the caps. Should I change the caps out? Will it improve the sound much? Glad I was able to score these speakers. Like the look of them too after being oiled and cleaned up.
 
Nice! Glad youre digging them. Mine are set up at a slight and towards the corners but are about a foot out from the wall. Ive had them for around 2 years and it took forever to get the positioning just right but they are my most listened to speakers. Sound amazing on old tube gear. I felt the treble was lacking a little as well when i forst got them but after recapping with some dayton caps they sound much better.
 
I felt the treble was lacking a little as well when i forst got them but after recapping with some dayton caps they sound much better.
Thank you for your feedback. I have read conflicting articles about replacing. I just am going to do it since it made yours sound better. I too am playing around with the positioning of these. My first speakers with a set of rear speakers. I feel I have heard the dimensional sound at times but not all the time I think I need to keep adjusting their position till I get it right. Kind of agree with you as well. You said they are your most listened to speakers. I can see why. The sound they produce is different from any other speaker I have heard. Very efficient speakers. Makes me wonder how their other speakers sound. I can see why they are known for bass. Its bass galore with these. But good bass.
 
When I had mine, (after recapping), plenty of treble. Take them outside, face them West, crank 'em up, and I'll see if I can hear them. I'm about 40 miles west.
 
When I had mine, (after recapping), plenty of treble. Take them outside, face them West, crank 'em up, and I'll see if I can hear them. I'm about 40 miles west.
HAHA man this is awesome. You got it pal. Just ordered the audio caps today. Sound b here by Wednesday next week. Cant wait to hear the difference.

Enjoy the music. Great pair of CV's.
Thanks so much for that information. Yes they are a pair that I am keeping now. Just overall impressed with these. Still cant get over the bass from these especially on a ported system.
 
Caps came and have been replaced with almost same values. Could not find a 7uf/k but found a 6.8 ufk one. Did a comparison with the re capped and the not re capped. I feel I actually could hear a difference where as with my Jensen's TF-3C's I really could not. Highs and Mids seem more accurate and precise now. Seemed a bit lacking before. Not sure but these speakers might have sat unused for a while. They smelled bad like basement musty smell. The old caps had a date of 1973 on them lol.
Speaking of Caps. Anyone have any info on SKY audio caps? The values I needed seem rare especially the 2.0ufk one.
 
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View attachment 1972902 View attachment 1972903 View attachment 1972904 View attachment 1972905 So a friend of mine just asked me if I wanted another pair of speakers, of course I took them, Luv speakers lol. However, the foam needs to be redone, I'll order the red foam today...or should I get gray... My first pair of Cerwin Vegas. I'm super excited to hear them. Figured I'd share the before and after shots with you all. The after pictures to come when the foam arrives. Has anyone had experience with these?? If so how is the sound? Ive never even heard a pair of Cerwin Vegas playing before.

OMG. Haven’t seen a pair of 217R’s in decades. The memories flooded back to the mid-70s for me. Working at The Sound Shack on Ventura Blvd in Tarzana, CA afforded me opportunities to demo these beasts. Only one track really did the trick to show off the low end - Tank, by Emerson, Lake & Palmer. So powerful, white powder from the ceiling tiles would flutter down on the bass hits. I sold quite a few pair from that demo alone. Good times, and enjoy!
 
OMG. Haven’t seen a pair of 217R’s in decades. The memories flooded back to the mid-70s for me. Working at The Sound Shack on Ventura Blvd in Tarzana, CA afforded me opportunities to demo these beasts. Only one track really did the trick to show off the low end - Tank, by Emerson, Lake & Palmer. So powerful, white powder from the ceiling tiles would flutter down on the bass hits. I sold quite a few pair from that demo alone. Good times, and enjoy!

These speakers ROCK. I certainly see why they made material fall from the ceiling lol. Great speaker and another speaker that has permanently stayed up and not rotated out. Powerfully great sound from these monsters. Another set of speakers with an excellent bass end.
 
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