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Cerwin Vega Recent Purchase .... Opinion Request

sailinshuz

sailinshuz

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Dear Audio Gurus ...

An old friend contacted me out of the blue with an offer I felt that I couldn't refuse. The offer was a pair of Cerwin Vega D-32s and a pair od Cerwin Vega B-36 for mere pocket change. I can't locate any info on what I bought, but my buddy assured me that this setup will "melt you face off." Would someone give me the skinny on:

is this a good find?
what these are (PAs?)?
where I can find technical info, e.g. specifications, owner's manuals?
what do I need to adequately push both sets to get the best sound quality?
how many watts would service these best?
what year these were actively on the market?
should I recap them?
are they rare?

Thank you, profusely, for any direction and info you can provide me. I included a picture for reference.
 

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Yes, those are PA speakers, made to "reach out and touch someone". Even at great distance. :D

If they're original, they should have probably ER123 or ER124 12" woofers in the D-32s, and some sort of 187xx, 188xx or 189xx (where xx will be something like EB, JE, SE or the like) 18" woofers in the B-36s. I can't recall the horn drivers used in the D-32s, right now. Probably Heppner, but other than that, I don't remember.

The good thing, is that those 12" and 18" drivers can still be easily repaired, if needed, by almost any proficient speaker repair shop. Equivalent parts are easily available in the aftermarket for these, to return these woofers to original operating condition.

As for power- I would suggest around 200-400 watts for each D-32 cabinet, and between 300-500 watts for each B-36. Though, for domestic or other close up use- you can probably drive yourself out of a room with 100 watts on each cabinet. Crossover between the two should probably be around 80Hz or so. The B-36 will go down to about 40Hz or so on the bottom- a bit lower, if you place both cabinets next to each other next to a wall (to act as a baffle).

Regards,
Gordon.
 
GordonW said:
Yes, those are PA speakers, made to "reach out and touch someone". Even at great distance. :D

If they're original, they should have probably ER123 or ER124 12" woofers in the D-32s, and some sort of 187xx, 188xx or 189xx (where xx will be something like EB, JE, SE or the like) 18" woofers in the B-36s. I can't recall the horn drivers used in the D-32s, right now. Probably Heppner, but other than that, I don't remember.

The good thing, is that those 12" and 18" drivers can still be easily repaired, if needed, by almost any proficient speaker repair shop. Equivalent parts are easily available in the aftermarket for these, to return these woofers to original operating condition.

As for power- I would suggest around 200-400 watts for each D-32 cabinet, and between 300-500 watts for each B-36. Though, for domestic or other close up use- you can probably drive yourself out of a room with 100 watts on each cabinet. Crossover between the two should probably be around 80Hz or so. The B-36 will go down to about 40Hz or so on the bottom- a bit lower, if you place both cabinets next to each other next to a wall (to act as a baffle).

Regards,
Gordon.
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Gordon ... Thank you, profusely! Can you explain a little about "crossover between the two"? Is it a physical device? Sorry, but I'm learning.
 
sailinshuz said:
Dear Audio Gurus ...

.. a pair of Cerwin Vega D-32s and a pair od Cerwin Vega B-36 ... I can't locate any info on what I bought..where I can find technical info, e.g. specifications, owner's manuals?

what year these were actively on the market?
should I recap them?
are they rare?

Thank you, profusely, for any direction and info you can provide me.
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Are they rare, probably not

CV's are a popular speaker brand however as the previous poster mentioned they are PA speakers meant for large venue type listening spaces.

As to should you recap them, what is your plan for them? are these speakers you plan to have in your home?

As to are they a good find, if they're working correctly I would say yes if they are going to be used by a band in a club, bar etc for home usage not so much I mean where are you going to put them.

CV still offers up info on their legacy products I would suggest going straight to the source and contact them with regards to specs hopefully they will still have that info in their archives

cerwinvega.com

Cerwin-Vega's legacy of high-quality audio

Learn about Cerwin-Vega's legacy of high-quality audio innovation. Discover our story, mission, and commitment to exceptional sound.
cerwinvega.com cerwinvega.com
 
sailinshuz said:
Gordon ... Thank you, profusely! Can you explain a little about "crossover between the two"? Is it a physical device? Sorry, but I'm learning.
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Most applications for these, would use a separate amp for the subwoofer (B-36) and main cabinet (D-32), in a bi-amp configuration. One amp would produce bass, and the other, the rest of the spectrum (midrange and high frequencies).

This requires some sort of active crossover. Many modern PA amps have these built in- the Crown XLS and Behringer I-Nuke NX-D series are examples of this. Or, an outboard electronic crossover (such as a Behringer CX2310 or its ilk) could also be used, before the amps. Regardless of how it's done- some sort of active crossover is going to be needed. That's what should be set to about an 80 to 100Hz crossover frequency.

Regards,
Gordon.
 
I used this one when I played in the band.... splits the signal to separate power amps, one for the tops, one for the subs.. An external crossover, adjustable, for level and crossover point

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Dswankey said:
Are they rare, probably not

CV's are a popular speaker brand however as the previous poster mentioned they are PA speakers meant for large venue type listening spaces.

As to should you recap them, what is your plan for them? are these speakers you plan to have in your home?

As to are they a good find, if they're working correctly I would say yes if they are going to be used by a band in a club, bar etc for home usage not so much I mean where are you going to put them.

CV still offers up info on their legacy products I would suggest going straight to the source and contact them with regards to specs hopefully they will still have that info in their archives

cerwinvega.com

Cerwin-Vega's legacy of high-quality audio

Learn about Cerwin-Vega's legacy of high-quality audio innovation. Discover our story, mission, and commitment to exceptional sound.
cerwinvega.com cerwinvega.com
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Dswankey ... I plan to put them in my garage. I really haven't thought about it. I paid 250.00 for both stacks. Felt I couldn't pass it up. I'll probably just Bluetooth my Spotify to the mixer and crank out some LIVE Little Feat. Thank you for helping me. Sending you the coolest and best vibes, I know ✌
 
GordonW said:
Most applications for these, would use a separate amp for the subwoofer (B-36) and main cabinet (D-32), in a bi-amp configuration. One amp would produce bass, and the other, the rest of the spectrum (midrange and high frequencies).

This requires some sort of active crossover. Many modern PA amps have these built in- the Crown XLS and Behringer I-Nuke NX-D series are examples of this. Or, an outboard electronic crossover (such as a Behringer CX2310 or its ilk) could also be used, before the amps. Regardless of how it's done- some sort of active crossover is going to be needed. That's what should be set to about an 80 to 100Hz crossover frequency.

Regards,
Gordon.
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GordonW ... Great info. I bought a cheap 2400W mixer off Amazon to get me started, specifically a Rockville RPM85 2400w Powered 8 Channel Mixer, USB, 5 Band EQ, Effects/Bluetooth. I'll have to look to see what capabilities it has. They offer a separate crossover unit, as well for 95.00. I want to figure out what I'm doing before spending any more on equipment. Thanks for the help! I like this forum.
Chad Michael said:
I used this one when I played in the band.... splits the signal to separate power amps, one for the tops, one for the subs.. An external crossover, adjustable, for level and crossover point

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Chad ... I will look it up. Thanks! .✌
 
Dswankey said:
are these speakers you plan to have in your home?
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If so, I'll listen from here.
damacman said:
Melt your face off is right ... !
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And that is the reason why.
sailinshuz said:
I plan to put them in my garage.
I'll probably just Bluetooth my Spotify to the mixer and crank out some LIVE Little Feat.
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That will work.

You now have a more than adequate bar band sound system in the garage. Door open, I'll hear it playing.

Enjoy.

Looks like each pair is worth a few hundred so you did well.
 
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