Champagne Marantz.

[longgone]

Are the 2230, 2245, and 2270 the only Marantz units that came with the Champagne faces?

The Champagne face Marantz were the early release of these models - correct? Is there any other significant differences between the Champagne early models and the later silver face models?

 

[mhardy6647]

I dunno... I can tell you that the dump-find 2215 (unsuffixed) that passed through here long ago had a champagne colored face and engraved labeling.


2215 innards by mhardy6647, on Flickr

2215ambient by mhardy6647, on Flickr

DSCN7358 by mhardy6647, on Flickr

Not sure if you can tell from these rather lousy photos...

 

[bktheking]

2215 - 2230 -2245 - 2270 and the earlier models to the 22xx but they could be just engraved- i've never seen one in person.

 

[captouch]

1060 also came in engraved, champagne versions.

 

[mhardy6647]

Actually (now that you mention it) I think that the two 1060s at my house are champagne-colored... I'll have to check this weekend.

 

[Phase700b]

This is my 2238B. And it isn't silver, that's for sure. It is shades more golden than a plain silver brushed aluminum.

 

[captouch]

The champagne ones sure are pretty. Very classy looking.

 

[Phase700b]

I agree. I have the black faced modern units and I also like them.

But the classy, golden look of a 70's receiver and glowing dial is something special. And there are a lot of beautiful brands and models to choose from.

 

[Son-of-Vere]

Just smoke a pack of cigarettes every day for a couple of decades, your silver face stuff will turn that color!

Scrubbin' that stuff off ain't fun.

 

[bktheking]

1030 and 1060 iirc, I thought we were only talking receivers.

 

[Silversleep]

My 2330b and 2385 have a champ. color.

 

[marantzhead]

Champagne faced

I have a 2215, 2245, 110 tuner, 1060, and a 120 tuner, all champagne faced with etched lettering. I have heard of 1200 amps with the same and would like to find one.

 

[ChrisMarantz]

I have a 2215, 2245, 110 tuner, 1060, and a 120 tuner, all champagne faced with etched lettering. I have heard of 1200 amps with the same and would like to find one.

One of my Model 1200's is champagne colored with etched lettering. It matches up very nicely with its original walnut cabinet.

 

[skibjr]

Here's one of mine. Etched, not stamped like the early 22XX series receivers, and very "champagne":

Purdy, huh?

 

[onemug]

Here's one of mine. Etched, not stamped like the early 22XX series receivers, and very "champagne":

Purdy, huh?

Very purdy!

Curious as to how you would describe etched vs stamped.

I've just taken to call these particular models "champagne/engraved" because that's what I've heard them called for long time. I think the correct term for how they did it is/was "stamped" and the later ones "silkscreened".

The politically correct term would be "recessed lettered/darker gold" model, but in the era where shorthand rules, I'll just refer to them as c/e's or g/e's.

Here is one of my c/e 2270's.

 

[onemug]

Kept this picture in my files to display the difference in the 2 types of 2270's that were produced.

Compared to my 2252b, I'd call the normal 2270 a champagne color. It's definitely more gold"ish". But the gold 2270 makes the normal one look pretty silver in contrast.

 

[skibjr]

Kept this picture in my files to display the difference in the 2 types of 2270's that were produced.

Compared to my 2252b, I'd call the normal 2270 a champagne color. It's definitely more gold"ish". But the gold 2270 makes the normal one look pretty silver in contrast.

Looks like my kitchen counter is getting to be famous!

Curious as to how you would describe etched vs stamped.

It's a subtle difference, but based on my ownership of these early-serialed Marantz units over the years, my subjective experience is that the 22XX series receivers seem to have a quality about the lettering that suggests raised outer edges (metal displacement caused by a stamping process) that were subsequently leveled off during the brushing/grinding process - perhaps a slight rounding of the faceplate into the recessed lettering. On the 1200 pictured and a few early 250s, the faceplate is perfectly flat right up to the edges of the lettering, as if the lettering was carved out with a tool (or a chemical) that removed the metal without disturbing the surrounding faceplate in any way. Perhaps this could be confirmed with some extreme macro shots under special lighting, but I never cared enough to investigate to that extent.

It's interesting to note that the units that appear to be engraved were manufactured in the U.S., while the apparently stamped units were manufactured in Japan.

 

[Phase700b]

Another thing to note. . . anodized brushed aluminum finishes such as on the Marantz and other 70's equipment, can be affected by ultraviolet light. Someone I know had a very nice 70s Pioneer in his garage and it got hit by sunlight every day for several years. He has another of the same model in his basement that never saw the light of day.

One day, the garage unit needed some work so he bought out the basement unit. He was aghast at how the sunlight had affected what was a deeper champagne finish and now looked pale.

So. . . that also may be a factor on units if you do not know it's history. Even sunlight entering a living room daily could fade a face plate.

 

[longgone]

Ok, so it seems there are 'stamped' units, 'engraved' units, and 'silkscreened' units.

What kind of serial number would be associated with an 'engraved' (made in U.S.A.) unit?

They all look soooo good!