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Christmas blunder SX- 1050 VS. SX 1100TW

Moth R. Superior

Moth R. Superior

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I've just noticed I put sx1100 in the title, What i meant was SX1000TW..
(can't figure out how to edit the thread title)
So this year I've been x-tra good, and the wife allowed me to buy a new piece for my main music room. So I went with a semi-expensive and monster sx1050.
Now i've got no complaints about the 1050, it sounds brilliant. (I'm also running it through an ADC sound shaper 300. don't ask, I like lights n ****).
Well I was over at my cousins place for x-Mas eve last night and his dad (I guess that would make him my cousin as well.. hmmm,,.), I digress...
The old man gifted me his old SX 1000 TW. Along with a pair of CS-88's.
This evening when I hooked up the Sx 1000, I was blown away buy the sounds that I heard, like blown!!!
Holy Sh*t!! this thing kicks!!
and now, dare i say, I may put the sx1050 on the chopping block, it sounds nowhere even close to this unit, the bass is deep, rich, full, the highs are crisp, (without and annoying hi-end noise that I tend to get in my left ear, due to hearing damage)
The speakers need some foaming, so I haven't played with them yet.. What should i expect?

Does anyone feel me? Know what I'm talking about.? I never expected to hear this sound from such a big sound from a semi-small unit!!!

Confused in Minneapolis
 
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Yup here ya go..

 

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I've heard (read) that the 1050 is very similar to the 1010 (which I own). I haven't done an A/B test with my Sansui AU-919 yet, but I'm guessing that the 1010 would be very close. I say that because I did swap them out once when the Sansui needed some work done. I didn't hear anything missing from the 1010 that was there with the 919. The sound was of course presented a little differently, but nothing missing.

Has the 1050 been rebuilt/recapped? If not, it could certainly benefit from at least a recap.

Why not keep both? You may, someday, get speakers that require a little more than the 1000TX is able to deliver. Besides, ya gotta have a backup, right?

Also, thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye out for a SX 1000TX now. ;)
 
Sound quality made in early transistor gear was emulating the sound of tubes from the previous years. The blue light Pioneers were similar with the full rich sound. Then the receiver wars were upon us and the bigger units were made more powerful and with more experience with transistors designers were going for lower distortion. Gotta have big power and low distortion. No accounting for sound quality, well not as much compared to getting good numbers. This led to a very clean controlled sound and was becoming more common.

We have lots of folks here buying based on specs as they do all around the world. Just look at the prices of the monster receivers. Folks love em because maybe they never compare those late 70s units with earlier gear, smaller gear, tube gear or high end gear. Without the comparison they sound wonderful.

50wpc is only a notch lower than a 120 wpc unit so it ain't no small receiver.
 
I bought the 1050 because of opportunity. Nothing wrong with that. I've also got a Marantz 2015 that i was using in the bedroom. the sX1000 puts 'em both down.
I just may hold onto the sX1050, that is, unless, I need the dough.
I really don't have the immediate means to properly exploit the 1050 (speakers and room size)50 WPC is PLENTY.
 
rickb119 said:
I've heard (read) that the 1050 is very similar to the 1010 (which I own). I haven't done an A/B test with my Sansui AU-919 yet, but I'm guessing that the 1010 would be very close. I say that because I did swap them out once when the Sansui needed some work done. I didn't hear anything missing from the 1010 that was there with the 919. The sound was of course presented a little differently, but nothing missing.

Has the 1050 been rebuilt/recapped? If not, it could certainly benefit from at least a recap.

Why not keep both? You may, someday, get speakers that require a little more than the 1000TX is able to deliver. Besides, ya gotta have a backup, right?

Also, thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye out for a SX 1000TX now. ;)
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YES, I think a recap is in order!
 
No, not small at all. Not for 1970. Pioneer was six years late to the game in (1970?) with it's first all solid state SX-1000TW. But it hit the ground running with the 50 good watts. I think it was a breakout unit for Pioneer, and signaled the start of the power wars. I too like the way it sounds and performs, but don't use mine enough to wax-poetic.
It was worlds better than the just so so and supposed to be 50 watt (1970?) Lafayette LR-1500TA that is really 35 watts and will fry your speakers if it fails.

Was there another 50 watter by 1970?

SX-1000TW
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LR-1500TA Not bad, but it ain't great either.
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Moth R. Superior said:
I've just noticed I put sx1100 in the title, What i meant was SX1000TW..
(can't figure out how to edit the thread title)
So this year I've been x-tra good, and the wife allowed me to buy a new piece for my main music room. So I went with a semi-expensive and monster sx1050.
Now i've got no complaints about the 1050, it sounds brilliant. (I'm also running it through an ADC sound shaper 300. don't ask, I like lights n ****).
Well I was over at my cousins place for x-Mas eve last night and his dad (I guess that would make him my cousin as well.. hmmm,,.), I digress...
The old man gifted me his old SX 1000 TW. Along with a pair of CS-88's.
This evening when I hooked up the Sx 1000, I was blown away buy the sounds that I heard, like blown!!!
Holy Sh*t!! this thing kicks!!
and now, dare i say, I may put the sx1050 on the chopping block, it sounds nowhere even close to this unit, the bass is deep, rich, full, the highs are crisp, (without and annoying hi-end noise that I tend to get in my left ear, due to hearing damage)
The speakers need some foaming, so I haven't played with them yet.. What should i expect?

Does anyone feel me? Know what I'm talking about.? I never expected to hear this sound from such a big sound from a semi-small unit!!!

Confused in Minneapolis
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No need for confusion grasshopper!! I happen to own one myself & it’s a exceptional early Pioneer receiver. Enjoy your little friend.
 

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Working back through a similar vintage SX-1500TD myself, looking forward to seeing how it sounds when done with the restoration. Was acquired as a fix and repair and still has some issues to resolve.
 
IMHO the decade of the 1970,s was the golden era of ss stereo equipment.Started with light weights 20 to50?wpc,moved up to middleweights at 50 to 125 wpc then heavy weights at 130 to 200 wpc lets say then super heavy weights 200 to 330 wpc .Technics fired the last and winning shot with the giant sa1000.If it sounded anywheres near as good as my old sa5570 at 185 wpc it would be a great sounding rig.I often wonder if the war hadn't of ended, how far they would of gone ?400 wpc,600? more?
 
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lico said:
Nice gift from the uncle (or is it cousin?) Give it a few days bet you are back to the 1050.
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Interesting idea here. Maybe he will try it again and appreciate the cleaner sound or maybe he likes he more musical, fuller sound. One of the reasons we swap gear to find what we like, for our ears and our music.
 
grillebilly said:
The CS 88's seem to have a following bit IMO that is due to the Pioneer mystique more than SQ. Not that they sound bad, but ...
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The amount of pioneer gear that has a following due to the name is overwhelming. But folks need to have their gear accepted by others and those others know the big 4, Pioneer, Marantz, Sansui and McIntosh. The lesser known gear can sound great and sell for way less if collecting but the OP got the 1000 and speakers free, cant beat that unless they were delivered. Those CS are better than what is in my garage for sure.
 
My mechanic, John, had an SX-1000TW in his shop. He played it all day long. It was covered in dust and grease, inside and out, but played like an angel. I warned him about cleaning it out for a longer life, but he had no interest. I moved; so I have no idea if it is still working.
 
rickb119 said:
I've heard (read) that the 1050 is very similar to the 1010 (which I own). I haven't done an A/B test with my Sansui AU-919 yet, but I'm guessing that the 1010 would be very close. I say that because I did swap them out once when the Sansui needed some work done. I didn't hear anything missing from the 1010 that was there with the 919. The sound was of course presented a little differently, but nothing missing.

Has the 1050 been rebuilt/recapped? If not, it could certainly benefit from at least a recap.

Why not keep both? You may, someday, get speakers that require a little more than the 1000TX is able to deliver. Besides, ya gotta have a backup, right?

Also, thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye out for a SX 1000TX now. ;)
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The SX 1050 is nice, your SX 1010 sounds better, it's major failing is the row of plastic selector pushbuttons.
 
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