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CLEANING VINYL - The AK compendium of fact, fiction and collective wisdom

Have you ever used glue to clean a record?

  • Yes

    Votes: 239 19.2%
  • No

    Votes: 1,007 80.8%

  • Total voters
    1,246
For all the amazing things about the “Humminguru”, silent is not one of them, unless there is a brand new model out
 
Well, my VC-E2 is a whopping 94 dB (measured with a dedicated SPL meter, not with the phone). I doubt the HG can be louder than that. :biggrin:
But I don't mind wearing ear muffs for a few seconds while I'm operating the vacuum, so the noise or lack of it wouldn't necessarily make me buy something else. But if it cleaned noticeably better, I'd consider it.
 
Well, my VC-E2 is a whopping 94 dB (measured with a dedicated SPL meter, not with the phone). I doubt the HG can be louder than that. :biggrin:
But I don't mind wearing ear muffs for a few seconds while I'm operating the vacuum, so the noise or lack of it wouldn't necessarily make me buy something else. But if it cleaned noticeably better, I'd consider it.
don’t have an SPL meter, but one of the best things about the HG is I don’t have to vacuum, it washes and dries. Put it in, push a button, pull it out, eazy peazy squeezy
 
+1 for the Humminguru. I've had mine for roughly 1 year and it gets constant use. Every new record goes in there before play and I cycle my existing ones in as needed. Love the convenience and the drying. No, it's not quiet but it's not obnoxious either. I have a spin clean as well and that gets used for the albums that need heavy duty cleaning. It's a good system but there are limitations. Albums with spills on them, caked on dust etc are going to need more than the HG. Fortunately I don't see many of those.
 
As a Vevor owner. I can choose how many records I clean in a load. I've usually done 4 at a time. It might do 6? Never tried more. If I was doing one at a time with 10 to 30 minute cycle times. I would have lost interest, I think.
Vevor is quite loud.
 
As a Vevor owner. I can choose how many records I clean in a load. I've usually done 4 at a time. It might do 6? Never tried more. If I was doing one at a time with 10 to 30 minute cycle times. I would have lost interest, I think.
Vevor is quite loud.
When I first got my HG, I spent two weeks sequestered in my basement, all day, and I’d wake up in the middle of the night and go back at it, wake up in the morning and all day. For me, the reason I did not get discouraged doing over 500 Pcs, was I had not seen my albums in over 20 years and each album was a butt load of memories and I had the best playlist in my head. I had to borrow another HG so I was cleaning two at a time. It was very loud.
 
When you say the Vevor or the HG are loud, do you mean the drying stage? Are the fans loud? Or are they loud even during the actual cleaning?
 
When you say the Vevor or the HG are loud, do you mean the drying stage? Are the fans loud? Or are they loud even during the actual cleaning?
The Vevor vibrates the tank to in turn vibrate the water. It sounds to me alike a metal chain being lightly bounced on a metal surface. Not very pleasant to listen to. Not bad enough for hearing protection. It's quieter than a mini-shop vac I use with a wand to dry, after bath. But, not by much. If I had it filled with water. I would do a sound meter reading for you.
 
When you say the Vevor or the HG are loud, do you mean the drying stage? Are the fans loud? Or are they loud even during the actual cleaning?
HG loud during all operations, sounds like belts squealing. I say this not to dissuade you, but to inform you. I would make the purchase over and over and over again. The noise is so worth the clean pop & click less records, put in machine, push a button and take out of machine clean (yes you have to add the water from the reservoir to the machine)
 
Thanks.
I thought an ultrasonic cleaner would just emit a 40 kHz sound while turning the record, nothing more. And I figured 40 kHz should be inaudible. I didn't expect it to squeal or to vibrate. I guess I'm not entirely familiar with the way they actually work. :dunno:
 
I have been gathering old beat-up records for 10 years now, and thanks to this wonderful place, have been quite successful in resurrecting many of my mom and dad's old records, some forgotten gems in thrift shops, etc.

Since AK has become THE place for all questions audio, I thought this thread could be a gathering of the assorted and still relevant threads about cleaning records.

First, I'm encouraging everyone who reads this to contribute your experience. We have all walks of life here, and I think it will be a great resource to compartmentalize this amazing knowledge. Yeah, I'd like this to be a sticky if it takes off.

Please keep the discussion moving ahead, and civil.

I'm going to link the two threads I find to be some of the greatest sources of knowledge on cleaning records and filthy vinyl.

This legendary thread pretty much ended my love/hate affair with records. Now I fear no vinyl! It's the wood glue thread.

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99837

This promising thread is from our resident expert on chemicals, Vince1.
Enzymes, not just for your gut any more!

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?p=8395516

also, any DIY type stuff is great. Please link any threads I miss.

Here's one I'm still sorta on the fence about. The results are great, but I fear the long-term issues. Scrubbing Bubbles as a cleaning method?

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=349539

Again, please comment, add what you've learned, and let us build this thread into a provable resource to save the vinyl. :thmbsp:
When I was heavily into vinyl most used for djing but a beloved collection for personal use. I kept mine mint an in dust/crackle free condition by applying permostat.
Turns out that the spray contained an anti fungicide which cleaned and eliminated junk from the grooves. Under microscope tracks looked more like pure pristine vinyl v a plowed field.
 
When I was heavily into vinyl most used for djing but a beloved collection for personal use. I kept mine mint an in dust/crackle free condition by applying permostat.
Turns out that the spray contained an anti fungicide which cleaned and eliminated junk from the grooves. Under microscope tracks looked more like pure pristine vinyl v a plowed field.

Permostat? THIS product?

Very interesting, and I appreciate your sharing this.
 
Thanks.
I thought an ultrasonic cleaner would just emit a 40 kHz sound while turning the record, nothing more. And I figured 40 kHz should be inaudible. I didn't expect it to squeal or to vibrate. I guess I'm not entirely familiar with the way they actually work. :dunno:

It's horrible, isn't it? Makes me think of someone rapidly chewing on tinfoil. Ugh.

The results are undeniable, though.
 
Thanks for the heads up on the HummingGuru overall volume. I've been considering one for a few years now and didn't realize it would be crazy loud--certainly not louder than my VPI 16.5 which I probably should use hearing protection with :D
 
For most cleaning, I use my simple Record Doctor RCM. I put out a clean, lint-free microfiber cloth and lay the record flat on it (started doing this when I realized I could scrub a little harder when the disk is fully supported rather than resting the disk on the machine's tt).

I use Record Doctor fluid.

Then I flip it and put it on the RCM to suck all the fluid off.

I have a lot of records that are old or that are used. For them, I used my cheap Chinese ultrasonic cleaner. I use my RCM to dry them.

Works well.

I've started cleaning new records before dropping the cart on them.
 
Thanks for the heads up on the HummingGuru overall volume. I've been considering one for a few years now and didn't realize it would be crazy loud--certainly not louder than my VPI 16.5 which I probably should use hearing protection with :D
I still believe they're over priced. The fact they require replacement parts (plz correct me if I'm wrong) and single album cleaning only (in addition to paying for the 7's or 10's attachments). All US are loud to an extent, nature of the beast. When the Vevor is back in stock it's definitely the best bang for the buck. I went ISonic a long time ago, not that loud compared to others I've heard. 10 record capability, though 8 is optimal. Haven't checked prices, though I'm sure with everything else it's gone up (though ordering through Amazon in separate was cheaper than ordering the full kit).
 
All US are loud to an extent, nature of the beast.
But why? They're supposed to emit a 40kHz sound, which should be inaudible. Apart from that, I would expect maybe a slight buzz from the motor turning the record, and perhaps the water sloshing inside, and that's it. What is it that makes them so loud?
 
But why? They're supposed to emit a 40kHz sound, which should be inaudible. Apart from that, I would expect maybe a slight buzz from the motor turning the record, and perhaps the water sloshing inside, and that's it. What is it that makes them so loud?
It’s transducers producing that kHz, vibration has to come from somewhere. It’s a vibration device outside of a metal tank.
 
Yes, but that vibration should be at 40kHz, shouldn't it? If that device vibrates fourty thousand times a second, then the noise produced by its vibration should be inaudible. OK, that vibration will also be transmitted to the table, so the wood the table is made of will start vibrating, too. But won't it also vibrate 40,000 times a second, producing a 40kHz (and hence inaudible) noise?
I'm sure I'm missing something. I probably have a very naïve view of these things. :)
 
After some negative experiences with the Vevor USC I have now got it working with very good results. I have used different 'recipes' and different temperatures. I have it now at 29 degrees celcius, use distilled water and 3 drops GrooveWasher G-Sonic Ultrasoon Concentraat per liter of water. Works out great for me.
 
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