Clones of LOTTE LA-1200 & LOTTE LA-2500 (Korean)

[mozcho]

Chanced upon an interesting piece of history...... Wonder if anyone owns any model below?

https://1001hifi.blogspot.com/2016/12/master-and-clones.html

Master and the Clones (1987)

This was not the first time in the history of High-Fidelity when a component was rebadged under several other brand names. This pre-amplifier / power amplifier combo from 1989 is perhaps the one that saw the most versions, most notably in Germany. The original was made by LOTTE of Korea and you can see below the "clones". Most of them had the same lettering and some even kept the model number as well. There were two versions made, one was 200 W/ch while the other one was 150 W/ch.

01 December 2016

LOTTE LA-1200 (150 W/ch) and the clones


LOTTE LA-1200


LIFE LA-1200


LENCO AF 3302


PALLADIUM LA-1200


PHILIPS PA-1200B


UHER Reference 1

LOTTE LA-2500 (200 W/ch) and the clones


LOTTE LA-2500


LENCO set


UHER Royal UMA-400


HANTOR LA-1500M


TENSAI PTM 3000


Posted by Robert

Labels: LENCO, LIFE, LOTTE, PALLADIUM, PHILIPS, UHER

 

[JoeESP9]

Very attractive gear.

 

[Bob in WI]

With those meters, I bet they all sold well.
Do we know if they were any good?

 

[mozcho]

With those meters, I bet they all sold well.
Do we know if they were any good?

Never seen nor heard. Yeah they sure have the look. But when I first saw them, I thought they were some Technics:

Technics SE-A7000

Technics SE-A5 MK2 class A power amplifier

 

[Bob in WI]

Never seen nor heard. Yeah they sure have the look. But when I first saw them, I thought they were some Technics:

Technics SE-A7000

Technics SE-A5 MK2 class A power amplifier

You'd have to think those are all from the same manufacturer.
They're almost identical.

 

[mozcho]

You'd have to think those are all from the same manufacturer.
They're almost identical.

Yeah that's what I thought too. Maybe it was Lotte who licensed the design from Technics, who knows?

 

[Bob in WI]

Yeah that's what I thought too. Maybe it was Lotte who licensed the design from Technics, who knows?

Maybe Lotto designed & contract mfgr'd this piece for Technics & others.
Technics designs & made/ makes TTs. I'm not sure much else is in house work.
I'm not an expert on Matsushita tho...

 

[mozcho]

Maybe Lotto designed & contract mfgr'd this piece for Technics & others.
Technics designs & made/ makes TTs. I'm not sure much else is in house work.
I'm not an expert on Matsushita tho...

Maybe or maybe not. Technics was setup in 1965 as a brand name for audio equipment of Panasonic. They made amplifiers, reel to reel, the whole range of hifi equipment, not just turntables. Some of their gears are held quite highly in the vintage audio circle. They are capable of manufacturing assembly-lines consumer craps, but they also have the ability to make first class products if and when they wanted to.

There is another short post found here about Lotte:
https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/anyone-ever-heard-of-lotte-electronics.158496/

 

[Bob in WI]

I was not disparaging contract mfgring.
If the customer wants top flight stuff, thats what the supplier w manufacture.

That said, I have no idea if Lotto mfg'd for Technics. Just guessing because the pics are so similar.

 

[Sdynamics]

I have the PHILIPS PA-1200B and 1000b pre amp any information on them? Year made and where it was built , good quality?

 

[mozcho]

I have the PHILIPS PA-1200B and 1000b pre amp any information on them? Year made and where it was built , good quality?

No idea, a google search should help.

 

[Sdynamics]

No idea, a google search should help.

Yea can't find much tried

 

[RVT1K]

I guess the times have changed.
I was in Korea twice for work back in 2013 or so. I remember seeing Lotte signs. On supermarkets...

But WOW, what a bunch of very cool looking amps!

 

[Sdynamics]

Was the philips 1200b made it Korea?

 

[mozcho]

Was the philips 1200b made it Korea?

Like what Bob said, Lotte could be the OEM for many others, if so, then high chance it is made in Korea.

 

[mozcho]

Found from the web: it is made in Korea.

Also, another thread in AK on this same amp:
https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/philips-pa-1200b-can-it-handle-it.222513/

Philips PA-1200B
https://www.ukaudiomart.com/details/649038182-philips_pa1200b_stereo_power_amp/images/526233/

 

[Dr. Ears]

Technics made a great line of speakers known as the Linear Phase Speakers.
Pictured is an SB-6060.

 

[Sdynamics]

Is It decent quality equipment you figure,? I think it sounds great

 

[Sdynamics]

Any manual for them

 

[Sasklite]

Yes there is. I am recapping a set, just ordering caps. After several hours of searching the Philips out, going through the Clones page etc, I found on the bottom of the circuit board the LA-1220 number, did some more searching and came up with Neckermann 1200, both pre and amp. its a German company, found a link to Korting, also of Germany.
I have hand checked the cap list for the amp and found it matched. Have not yet checked the Pre.
I found a couple other clones were build different inside.
The SM file is about 5MB, and it won't load up in this thread. there a couple different models in it, will break it up into sections and see if I can upload. Found a couple other products, pictures loaded.

More later.