complete Yamaha System or upgrade turntable

[Adam nem]

Hello
Long time follower first time post. I getting into vintage audio and had saved a few dollars and I was wondering on advice on improving the sound experience.

I currently have
amp - Yamaha cr 800
turntable - yamaha ypd4 - shure m75hd Cartridge
speakers - Technics sb 7000a - non stock tweeter

My options are to either purchase a set of Yamaha ns 690 version 1 speakers $750 canadian, or for $1000 canadian I could get a ariston rd11, SME 3009 cartridge, dynavector ruby cartridge.

As both item are out of town I would not be able to audition until I have made my choice. Would the upgrade un turntable make a large difference or would the entire Yamaha system compliment each other.

Thanks

 

[spazus]

I personally believe in starting with the speakers. Just my opinion. Good luck

 

[wmgwizard]

No need to match components or speakers. Sadly some manufacturers make great electronics but their speakers, not so much.

What are you hoping to improve by making these changes ?

Speakers generally have the biggest impact on what you hear so upgrading them will usually give you the best bang for your buck.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with your current speakers but I'm also unsure if the Yamaha's you mentioned would be an "upgrade" or a lateral move.

 

[xero-D-hero]

I'd opt for speakers first myself.
But I would'nt limit my choice(s) to just those NS-690 v1 simply because that's what is available "right now".

Patience is a virtue when hunting stereo gear.
But yeah one also needs to be "quick on the trigger" when a deal pops-up.

That said if the NS-690 v1 checked out and were in real nice shape,I'd say they'd be a decent companion to the CR-800.

No idea if that's a good price or not though?
But I firmly believe that if a buyer feels the item was worth what he paid for it,than it was a good deal.

JMO

Bret P.

 

[Adam nem]

Thanks for the replys
Yes i feel im going to hold on for a little bit and see what comes up. I was leaning more to the speakers but the alot of threads i was reading really suggest starting from the source and how a hi fi musical turntable can really make a large difference. I always wondered how much of a difference a higher end turntable/cartridge would sound compared to my mid range 70s one or would i feel my returns are diminishing.

Realistically i was listening to vinyl on a Walmart media player and this is my first real stereo. Each piece i purchased really took my listening to a while new level as i have never heard as no one i know really invests in audio. Plus being in a small town not with alot for listening options.

 

[Capitol C]

In a vinyl system, people debate the relative importance of the cartridge vs. the speakers. Can you get any information on the tweeters, ie, were they installed by someone who understood what is involved with a substitute tweeter such as a modified crossover network, correct impedance, etc? I'd worry also about the condition of the foam and crossover components. Based on all of this, new speakers, or a careful restoration of the existing speakers, may be the way to go.

I mentioned the cartridge. If your turntable is up to spec, it has good wow and flutter numbers. You might find that replacing the cartridge with something newer will improve the sound more than replacing the turntable and keeping the cartridge. (No criticism of the Shure cartridge, but excellent older cartridges can develop problems as the rubber pivot and spacers dry out.)

Note that both the owners manual and the service manual for this turntable are available on hifiengine, if you don't already have them.

 

[JoeESP9]

There are speakers first folks and there are source first folks. The desired results don't change regardless of which camp you're in.

I'm a speakers first person. However, IME it's best when both ends are satisfying to the owner.