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Completetly false advertising

luxmaster

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I found a Luxman R-117 on Ebay going for $300. I look closer and realize that the pic is not of a R-117 and but of a R-114 and the stat info is wrong saying it is 120Watts a channel when the R-117 is 160Watts a channel and the R-114 is rated at 45Watts a channel. Check it out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-MONSTER-LU...00179?pt=Receivers_Tuners&hash=item3360df9f73

How can this listing be so wrong? Is this guy on crack or really doesnt know his stuff and just taking a guess. It boggles my mind.
 
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Well..this is about all I need to see to keep me from buying it.


GREAT SOUND, LESS USED, STEREO RECEIVER ***

*** ONE OF HIGHEST POWER WATTS STEREO RECEIVER***

*** WELL BUILT EVER MADE BY LUXMAN
 
It could be someone that is ignorant and is not an English speaker, then again, it could be someone who is just an idiot, a scammer, or both. I see this all the time here in San Diego, California.
 
Send an e-mail to them sharing your knowledge. If they fail to adjust their listing, then report them.

There is a seller that has some Realistic Nova 5 speakers for sale that stated they couldn't remove the grills. I have owned two pairs of these and seen many more for sale and all but the ones that were recently refoamed needed to be refoamed. I sent a message to the seller explaining how to get the grills off, but they just ignored me and relisted them over and over with the same statement about not being able to get them off. They have a very high feedback with 100% positive. It makes me wonder about that feedback thing.
 
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I asked him a question and got this...

"Hi,
I'm so sorry for such mistake! I have 5 Luxman, one of them is R-117 which I'll put it on sale on Wednesday. You're right, this is R-114 and I must correct this mistake and I offer for sale this is $79.00 only. Thank you again."
 
I have seen that few times already! A guy was selling Fisher speakers but they actually were H.H.Scott. One time I saw a Pioneer receiver and on the pictures it was a Kenwood so it happens! The confusion is which one are you really buying, on the pics or in the description :)
 
Send an e-mail to them sharing your knowledge. If they fail to adjust their listing, then report them......

I've done this a number of times. I grew weary of the interactions I had with both the ignorant and the malicious ignorant.

"Who promoted YOU to be the auction police?"

"That number came directly from the back of the receiver!"

"The serial number was removed at the factory."


And I never got the sense that Meg Whitman cared one way or the other.
 
The way the listing is done is very common. Somebody is selling something, and they may or may not know what they have, they may or may not understand the details, they may or may not read/write English well, they may or may not be completely and utterly honest, they may or may not...

There's simply no way to know.

As far as the accuracy of the details of anything, eBay would need a staff of experts on everything on earth to read every listing every day and send corrections to the sellers. And then read the auction again the next day to see if the seller made the corrections. And then email the seller again if the corrections weren't made, and give them a final warning/chance to make the corrections. And then read the listing again the next day to see if the corrections had been made, and then delete the auction if the corrections weren't made.

Not exactly realistic.

The best advice, if you've got the time on your hands, is to send a friendly, helpful message to the seller letting them know that they may have accidentally included a slightly inaccurate point in their description. I've done that from time to time. About half the time I get a very friendly reply back: "Thanks a bunch! I don't know anything about this electronicable stuff!!", about a quarter of the time I hear crickets chirping, and about a quarter of the time I get a rude, snotty reply from the tweaker who listed the item.

Life goes on.

Here's the bottom line on someone who has deliberately listed incorrect information on an item: eBay won't touch it. Now, I'm not talking illegal statements, I'm talking "wrong" statements. I know a bit about English sports cars, MGA's in particular, and I saw an auction for a "Extremely rare engine option!!!" in an MGA. What it was, in fact, was a car with the wrong engine swapped into it. I emailed the seller, and got told to buzz off. I reported the auction to eBay, and got a nice, personal response that made it clear to me why the responsibility for knowing the details of something rests with the buyer. The buyer needs to know what he's buying. The buyer needs to know the details of what Luxman models had what features and how many watts per channel, otherwise the buyer is taking chances.

eBay is 100% correct in staying at arms length, because if they didn't, there would be buyers complaining that eBay failed to protect the buyer from his own ignorance.
 
"Hi,
I'm so sorry for such mistake! I have 5 Luxman, one of them is R-117 which I'll put it on sale on Wednesday. You're right, this is R-114 and I must correct this mistake and I offer for sale this is $79.00 only. Thank you again."

And there you have it!:thmbsp:
 
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