Counterfeit 2255 glass on eBay

Are you questioning the feedback accuracy or his honesty? If the former, I think it's just a sign of eBay not allowing negative feedback.

They allow negative feedback alright.


I don't know how a seller can lie about a product and still get 100% positive feedback.

Did they sell many like it or is it just this one? (Plus it hasn't actually sold yet). There is also a slight possibility the seller is unaware of the issue but was only relaying the story that was given when he acquired it.

Thirdly, not every buyer would necessarily be aware of the issues either (assuming there were other sales involving similar glass parts) in which case they'd have no reason to leave negative feedback.
 
As noble a cause as this is, you just have no idea of the internal hurdles to be overcome by the bean counters who always think the same - we'd prefer to sell this customer a new amplifier.

I actually do understand, I've owned/run a business restoring Prevost and BlueBird motorcoach/motorhomes and have had many parts manufactured, in some cases the original manufacturer became one of my customers. I've also been in the automotive OEM business including new and service parts and chrome badges was one of our product lines, ... BTDT. When a used motorhome can sell for over $1mm buyers expect the right parts, even if they're cosmetic, not unlike many vintage McIntosh buyers. I do realize that dropping your purchased quantity from production levels to service-part levels will sometimes mean losing your supplier where you will need to stockpile (minimum order quantity) at usually an increased price. However, they produce their own faceplates. If the costs go up due to setup time for short runs, raise the price don't cheapen the product (my opinion).

The business of selling new amplifiers is not the same as servicing them, nor as supplying new replacement parts, and can be justified either as support of new sales or as their own profit centers. I see vintage or legacy parts sales as its own profit center. AC has bought out many of McIntosh's older service parts to re-sell, they're already warehousing and selling service parts.

As I've said many times before, the numbers are simply not there to manufacture model-specific parts profitably, especially after the drain on limited resources is factored in. Mc should be commended for supporting older products for as long as it did but in the final analysis, business profitability (by extension, survival) is all that ultimately matters.

That's the point, they don't have to. As support for the resale and reputation of the brand they can continue to offer parts but like automotive, have a cutoff a certain time period after a model ends production where part sales moves into their legacy support division or is handled by a certified part distributor. I know that there was a businesss making service parts including badging, but they stopped, rumor is that McIntosh forced them to stop. McIntosh can just as easily say that the production of parts in-house is not profitable or not enough so to justify the resources necessary and license someone capable (who will have to meet McIntosh standards) to handle sourcing and selling these parts.

Common stuff, automotive keeps the service parts separate and it works well for them.
 
They allow negative feedback alright.




Did they sell many like it or is it just this one? (Plus it hasn't actually sold yet). There is also a slight possibility the seller is unaware of the issue but was only relaying the story that was given when he acquired it.

Thirdly, not every buyer would necessarily be aware of the issues either (assuming there were other sales involving similar glass parts) in which case they'd have no reason to leave negative feedback.

The seller offers around a dozen different model glass faceplate, all of them now say the were in storage for 10-20 years, that they're "out of stock in the US", ship from overseas, ... and I'm pretty sure that he knows they're not OE.

Negative feedback for sellers is allowed? Maybe it's only buyers that you can't assign negative feedback? Maybe something changed, I try to avoid eBay when possible so I'm certainly not the eBay expert.
 
The seller offers around a dozen different model glass faceplate, all of them now say the were in storage for 10-20 years...

That's a totally different scenario then. In that case there's deliberate hoodwinking being done.

Negative feedback for sellers is allowed? Maybe it's only buyers that you can't assign negative feedback? Maybe something changed, I try to avoid eBay when possible so I'm certainly not the eBay expert.

Buyers can always leave negative feedback for sellers- which may as well be the First Clause of eBay's Bill of Rights - if there were such a thing. :) Sellers cannot leave negative feedback for buyers however.
 
Lee Iacocca famously had a whole warehouse of jeep parts in Toledo Ohio destroyed.

He said “I am in the business of selling new jeeps, not keeping old ones on the road”
 
Is there a reason why Macintosh can't make these faceplates out of something more durable, like plexyglass.
 
I don’t think it would matter.

The glass breaks when people rest their macs outside of a walnut case and all that pressure is on the face plate.
Plexi-Glass can be brittle too
 
Plexiglass was considered originally but the idea was rejected because it scratched too easily and the pristine appearance would be lost.
 
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Radio Daze was making awesome reproductions but was contacted by MC to stop using their logo, they still make them without the logo, and the price was good also.
https://www.radiodaze.com/mcintosh-graphics

Plexiglass was considered originally but rejected the idea because it scratched too easily and the pristine appearance would be lost.
One of my C20's has an original faceplate I believe is plastic.
 
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Well, maybe if Mcintosh had alowed Radio Daze to continue making them with the logo, the Chinese wouldn't have to fill the void.
They could have just give Radio Daze a special license to do it.
 
Is there a reason why Macintosh can't make these faceplates out of something more durable, like plexyglass.

Plexiglass looks cheap. The original version of the C20 had a plexiglass faceplate and it looked real bad. Also it gets scratched if you look at it wrong. There's no problem with McIntosh glass if it's shipped using factory boxes. Most of the broken glass comes from people shipping them wrong. The only real problem with the glass that might require you to replace it without it being broken is if it bubbled and that only happens because they attached stuff to the back of the glass with adhesives and tape. If they had somehow figured out a way to protect the paint from the chemicals in the adhesives there probably wouldn't be any bubbling problems.
 
Well, maybe if Mcintosh had alowed Radio Daze to continue making them with the logo, the Chinese wouldn't have to fill the void.
They could have just give Radio Daze a special license to do it.
It would've been nice of them, even a temporary license so they could produce parts until MC makes them again.
 
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