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Craftsmen 500

The 500 is definitely easy to rebuild... what I'd do differently in mine is skip the Jensen PIO caps (on the output tubes) for modern film-and-foils. I do like the way my amps sound, but I think it's easier to work with conventional caps, and I trust them more. The purple Sangamo caps on the phase splitter are PIOs (mine were oozing), and absolutely must go... those you might replace with Russian PIO if trying to keep as-original. But for the rest my vote would be Solen SM or CDE.

For resistors, I have used NOS carbon comps throughout. Most of the 2W resistors in my amps were drifted, and it was a very important step to replace them. I really went nuts with these, and purchased more than I needed of each type, then baked them in the oven at 150F for an hour. The driver plate load resistors in the 500a are paralleled 100k to make 50k combinations -- this is a great improvement over the 47k resistors in this position in the 500, and I would recommend doing it in yours. That way you can pick perfect combinations of 100k resistors to get exactly 50k load on each driver triode. Mine are matched within the limits of my multimeter's ability, and have not drifted in the 5 years since the rebuild.
 
Awesome, great advice thank you..

I am a little over 1/2 way through a Fisher X-202 refurb. Those oozing caps are defineatly a concern, they really do make a mess if let go..

Jon, do have any pics or threads posted on your rebuild ?
 
I don't know that I have any pics here, and unfortunately I won't have access to the amps until August (I'm doing some serious travel - in Australia now - and am in the process of moving). But I can tell you exactly what I did if you have any questions.

Things are a bit different since you have the 500 -- I'm curious to see the power supply schematic, because in the 500a the supply decoupling caps on the phase splitter / driver stage are 8uF electrolytics. If you can fit Solen 12uF Fastcaps here, it is an awesome upgrade. For the 40uF sections, I used 50uF/50uF LCRs. I think yours also has a ~6-10uF cap before the power supply choke (after the rectifier), which isn't present in the 500a that you will need to address.
 
Wow,
I am thinking Australia is some serious traveling. Always wanted to go there myself, too cool.
Thats ok because this will probably move quite slowly as I have a lot going on myself right now.
Your advice is very appreciated, it will be a near total rebuild as I want to et the 2 amps as close to each other as possible. The first step is to get a hold of the schematic, I will start with Sam's Monday a.m.
Have a great trip / tour and ttyl.
David
 
Here are my friends before pics (he didnt take pics of the after)

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I'll never get the whole capicator debate. I just use plan ol foil tubular/orange drops. See my whole look on the debate, is any capicator that you can buy today is 100 times better then what originally was installed. Technology advances, just look at the size difference in caps now. I have a C550 and it sounds great with standard run of the mill caps.
 
I also have a pair of these patiently awaiting restoration. Mine have different style chokes and one has a replacement power transformer. The one with the original power tranny has a replacement choke with non stock values and is using 6L6 instead of KT66. It is also using a 5U4 instead of the 5V4 that it should have. The restoration will make both of them identical. Another thing to remember with these is that they were designed to run at 115 volts. There is a terminal board underneath by the power tranny that should have the jumper lead attached to "HI" for modern 120+ volt homes.

I believe the square and round corner versions are pretty much the same. The rounded are the older of the two from 1951-early 1952. The square version was introduced in 1952 and was superceded by the 500A in 1953, which is significantly different with higher plate voltage, a 15W output rating, and class AB operation compared to the original 10W pure class A rating.

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mpholland,
Thanks for posting, it is tough to find a matched pair and when they come up on the bay we both know its for ridiculas money.
Wondering if you know, are these standard Stancor transformers from the day ? Also I see your the same boat as I, (1) amp with the good Genelex KT66's and the other not. Wondering, do you have a plan for matching the chokes up ?
 
mpholland,
could you post some pics of the underside of yours ?? I am particularly intersted in the opt leads.

Jack,
are those 500a's ? i ask because those cans cover what i want to see most.
 
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mpholland,
Thanks for posting, it is tough to find a matched pair and when they come up on the bay we both know its for ridiculas money.
Wondering if you know, are these standard Stancor transformers from the day ? Also I see your the same boat as I, (1) amp with the good Genelex KT66's and the other not. Wondering, do you have a plan for matching the chokes up ?

I have the SAMS folder for these with the parts list and schematic so finding the correct chokes should be no big deal. I am not sure who made the actual stock transformers. The Stancor replacement for the power transformer is actually physically smaller, but specs out the same. I was going to use the original GEC tubes, as they are good, but decided that I will probably sell them and buy a quad of Pentas. I listen to music for many hours/day and I am afraid that I just can't afford to run the original GEC's.

I can take some good pics, but probably won't be able to get them on for a week or so as my electronics room is being taken over by my daughter and a friend for a short internship at the local medical center.
 
I prefer the midrange sonics of the KT66 over most 6L6 styles that I have heard. There are some 6L6 that seem to be liked by others and you may find some you like also. The whole audio question to me can be answered by a simple "if you like it listen to it". If you are really curious my advice would be to listen to both and make up your own mind. I wouldn't want to be the one to convince you to spend good money on KT66 and then find out you like a cheaper 6L6 version better. On the other hand, there are some 6L6 tubes out there that cost more than the newer KT66 also. It is all in what floats yer boat.
 
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popped up a a local estate sale, had to get it

:D :D :D
 

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Ha!
I saw that one today, but wasn't familiar with it and thought the asking price was "ambitious", especially since none of the tubes looked special.

Congrats!!
 
Ha!
I saw that one today, but wasn't familiar with it and thought the asking price was "ambitious", especially since none of the tubes looked special.

Congrats!!

I have been on the seller for 3 days.. I talked them into tomorrows price at the end of the sale today. Not a steal but I did not buy to sell, still way less than ebay rate.

The ROK in the basement was pretty nice but as you say, the asking on that was also ambitious. Wonder if she will be there Saturday
 
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I'm really not familiar with the item and didn't recognize it from the picture, but when I walked in and saw it on the front desk, I knew it wasn't going to be cheap :D

A GE VR mono cart would have made the ROK more attractive, but that brown plastic job in there didn't look interesting.

I wonder what speakers were used? I did snag a couple EV AT-37 pots, so maybe a Regency or the like was there at one time???
 
A little birdy told me a single blonde aristrocrate went early. I am also wondering where the rest of the gear was, the estate sale company guy said it was the sons of the owners and left behind.
 
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