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CS-99A/CS-88A/Difference?

That means that he hasn't shipped the second one. The second speaker hasn't been given to UPS.

Vintagetoymob printed out a shipping label on his computer (at the UPS web site), but that's all.

He has a UPS account, and prints his own labels, then gives the shipment to UPS via a driver, or drops off the shipment at places like a UPS store.
 
That is what I thought.
I don`t know of anything we can do. Looks like we where both taken by vintagetoymob.
I think I`m finished with eBay. It is an easy avenue for crooks.
I am a trusting person by nature. That is a fault now days.
TankDonovan
 
I am a trusting person by nature. That is a fault now days.

There's nothing wrong with that. I'm pretty much the same. I'll give someone the rope, but it's up to them to hang themselves.

The money order thing is where the problem lies. Pretty much no way to get your money back.

With Paypal you do have recourse.
 
Shain said:
That means that he hasn't shipped the second one. The second speaker hasn't been given to UPS.

I'm not sure that's necessarilly true. I recently had a similar experience with a package that I had shipped from work. (We print our own shipping labels, too.) A couple days after the package was picked up, the customer called to inquire about the shipment. A UPS tracking inquiry did 'not indicate shipment pick-up or drop-off', but I knew it had been picked up. Apparently, UPS does not log packages into their system until they arrive at the local hub. My package probably got left on the truck or just got over-looked at the hub for a day or two. Ultimately, the package did arrive at it's destination.

I'm not taking sides with this seller, by any means. He's obviously not a reputable eBay-er. But, based on my experience, UPS could just as easily be at fault here, and there's a good chance your other speaker will show up on your doorstep. In one piece? Well, that's anybody's guess.- MA
 
Mark,

Not so because tankdonovan has already recieved one of the speakers a week or so ago.

Maybe one business day delay, then if it actually was shipped, it will show up in tracking.

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NEWS FLASH:

I just received the 2216B.

It wasn't shipped using vintagetoymobs UPS account. He went to a place like "Mail Boxes Inc." (took almost three weeks after payment for auction was made, and no answer to emails)

I'm guessing he has credit card problems. (UPS and Ebay closed his accounts??)

So, tankdonovan, you MAY get your other speaker :thmbsp:
 
Shain,
Sounds like money problems to me too. If so, should have said something.
Maybe I will receive the speaker later. He still says that he mailed both of them.
I`m not going to worry about it. Let you know if it shows up.
What kind of shape is the 2216B in?
TankDonovan
 
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The 2216B is pretty much as described, but haven't plugged it in, and won't until I check it over and clean the controls, etc

The packaging was good enough (but marginal at best) to get the Marantz here OK. But if had been a heavier unit, the results would have been different.
(The 2216B is one of the light weight models)

He used wadded up newspaper as padding :sigh:

If money problems are at the route of the problems, then he maybe too embarrassed to talk about it.
 
Sounds like the packaging[newspaper] my one speaker arrived in. It is really amazing it made it in one piece, unharmed.
Glad you got your receiver.

TankDonovan
 
Cs-88a

Anyone,
Since this is a forum for speakers lets talk speakers. Or should I say speaker. Well, on top of only getting one speaker. I find that it sounds like crap. Yes, CRAP! The woofer does not work at all, one mid works and one mid works just a little. The tweeters do not work at all. I took the back off and everything looks O.K. All wires are connected. As clean as a pen. Looks like the back had never been off. Everything looks new. The same from the front. What gives? Does anyone have any ideas?
I do much better when I find speakers on the side of the road.
TankDonovan
 
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TankDonovan,

Ah, finally some questions on this forum I can possibly answer. There are several pausible reasons why the drivers don't work. I'll cover the ones I know, in my limited repertoire of experience.

First, the drivers could be bad. This is simple to check for by simply removing the wires and taking a Multi-Meter set to measure resistance (Ohms) and checking to see if there's any continuity and if there is see if you get a reading anywhere near the rating of the driver.

Second, I see that there are a couple of switches to adjust the level of the mids and tweeters. This is most likely the area of trouble with your tweeters. You'll want to try adjusting these while putting a signal througth the speaker and see if one setting does work. If none work, just do the same thing with the MM that you did with the drivers in the first check and see if there's any continuity with the switch. A little shot of contact cleaner/De-Oxit before this might take care of the problem straight away.

Third, you could have some bad components in the crossover, such as a bad cap that's preventing the signal from getting through or hindering it in the case of one of your mids. I'm not too sure about this, I'm afraid, but I think that if you can measure no continuity through the capacitor, then it may be bad (this appears to be the problem with a speaker I'm currently repairing).

Fourth, there could be something wrong with the wires and/or connections. You could just have an old wire connecting everything that's gone bad and thus no longer has continuity; this has happened to me before and is an easy fix -- just replace the wire. There could also be a broken solder connection somewhere along the line in the crossover.

One last possibility for the mid that is only working partly, with no signal going to the speaker, gently press the cone in linearly. If you hear a hash sound, then either something is wrong with the voice coil (rubbing) or the spider has come off and caused VC rubbing. In my experience, this has caused greatly reduced output in the driver.

I hope one of the above is the culprit and thus easily discovered and fixed. I especially hope that the case is not your drivers being bad, though that can still be fixed by a pro such as GordonW or any number of companies.

- JP
 
Charivari,
Wow! Thanks, for the info. I`ll try to check the things you say may be the problem. I`ll take the back off tomorrow when I can have some good sun light. Thanks again.
Could this speaker have gotten this way from shipping if it was working perfect when shipped?
TankDonovan
 
No, not yet. Have not had time to really check them out. Just looking at them it appears that all is O.K. When I took the back off it looked new inside. I knew that the CS-88As were good speakers, but I had no idea how well build they were. With all that is wrong with it[almost everything]just guessing, I would say the crossover. I will post the results if I can figure it out.
TankDonovan
 
Shain said:
I'm about done with money order payments for stuff. It seems like that's the scam now.

Pay with money order and never receive the item.

Paypal is much safer now. There is recourse with Paypal. With money order, there's really no way to get the problem resolved.
As far as using money orders for payment, always use postal money orders. If something funny happens it could be called mail fraud and that will get a seller's attention. Also, you can trace them to see if it was cashed. If so and no goods arrive, you have some documentation that a crime was committed.

- Pete
 
Well...,I guess it is time to put this thread to rest. It has been over six weeks since I purchased those outstanding[as described in auction ad] CS-88As. As you all know I only received one DOA speaker. I eMailed the seller a number of times about the missing speaker and the condition of the one I did receive. I got a few replys. All were BS. He said he mailed[2 weeks ago] me the receipt showing were he sent two speakers. I guess it also got lost in the mail. LOL UPS said only one was sent. He has now closed this eMail account. I don`t have the luxury of telling him what I think of him.
The DOA speaker is in my system being used to sit my CT-F9191 on[looks good together]. Also it sits as a reminder that eBay is not always safe. Even when the seller looks O.K. His feed back was good. Why all of a sudden did he decide to become dishonest? I guess eBay is really a gamble. Maybe you win, maybe you lose. I know, it was only 175.99[could have been worse] but it makes me mad knowing it was done with malice. I can find no other answer.
Have a Good Day!
TankDonovan
 
Tank, that's a bummer. Fortunately, there are many more good Ebay sellers than thieves like this guy.

- Pete
 
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