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wgrr

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I am selling my MX110, MC40's and my Chorus II speakers to a good friend. I will be replacing the amps with two MC275's running as monoblock's. My pre will be the C2200 I picked up this July.

The ultimate plan is to get Khorns for my 24X32 room over my new garage. Since we have not even broken ground yet it will be awhile before I move in.

I have read many good things about the Cornwall here and it seems to be the most popular choice for vintage Klipsch sound for the price. I know several versions of this speaker have been made over the years, primarily the original Cornwall and the Cornwall II, and III. Bob Crites is not far away, so anything I do will get his upgrades if needed.

I will be doing a full Crites upgrade on the Chorus II's before they go to their new owner. I am afraid I will regret selling them. Oh well, everybody needs a speaker change after almost 20 years.:D

Any opinions or advice is appreciated.
 
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I absolutely love my Cornwall III's I bought from a friend. Far and away the most enjoyable and fun speakers I've had. Fills a room with music and plenty of bass. Awesome :)

Joe
 
If you want to do the full meal deal on the Chorus get a set of the Klipsch Titanium mid diaphragms, id that is too rich then at least a new set of Bob`s phenolic diaphragms as they are much better than the old stock phenolic diaphragms. If you go with the Ti diaphragms it might just have you looking for another set of Chorus ll`s for yourself as you may just find that it is the change you have been looking for. Bob even has a little mod just for the Ti mid diaphragms. Good luck with the new room and your Khorns if you decide to go that way. Best regards Moray James.
 
Crites has a band pass mod for the K53 Ti - that resolves a frequency hump, I got this done with my Crites X-overs, Ti's Tweet + K53 Ti Mid, are a big effen improvement especially with mods !
 
Thanks for the replies. I am going to go with whatever Crites upgrades for the Chorus II's there are out there. I will still be listening to them even though I no longer own them.

I really jut want to try something different for awhile. The Cornwall is the only vintage Klipsch speaker I have not listened to on an extended basis over the years.
 
wgrr said:
I am selling my MX110, MC40's and my Chorus II speakers to a good friend. I will be replacing the amps with two MC275's running as monoblock's. My pre will be the C2200 I picked up this July.

The ultimate plan is to get Khorns for my 24X32 room over my new garage. Since we have not even broken ground yet it will be awhile before I move in.

I have read many good things about the Cornwall here and it seems to be the most popular choice for vintage Klipsch sound for the price. I know several versions of this speaker have been made over the years, primarily the original Cornwall and the Cornwall II, and III. Bob Crites is not far away, so anything I do will get his upgrades if needed.

I will be doing a full Crites upgrade on the Chorus II's before they go to their new owner. I am afraid I will regret selling them. Oh well, everybody needs a speaker change after almost 20 years.:D

Any opinions or advice is appreciated.
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Since you are building your own room make those corners as stout as possible. I've been surprised at the difference good corners make. A friend went from thinking khorns were pretty good to having new found respect for them after hearing them in proper corners.
 
Understand your anxiety in selling the Chorus. I own three sets of Klipsch, Belles, Cornwall's and Forte II's and at one time or another was thinking of selling one to finance another including the current Belles for KHorns. Doesn't sound like a financial issue based on your other equipment.

Bottom line is I hung onto all of them including the Forte's in my son's room which I still venture into to listen. All three current speakers are a ladder up to the KHorns. Know they are coming some day, just the right situation as happened to me with both the Cornwall's and the Belles.

Each set has replaced the other in the main listening room with the second set going in my office where my Cornwalls presently reside. Have to say I still consider moving the Cornwalls back downstairs at times if that tells you anything but those are my ears and others would claim that Heresy, (semi pun intended), vs the Belles. If it wasn't for the alternative of running the others up the stairs it may have happened a time or two. Yeah, I could leave both sets down there but then I would have to steal the Forte's back, bad form.

Bottom line, love the Cornwalls. Best of luck whatever your decision.
 
moray james said:
If you want to do the full meal deal on the Chorus get a set of the Klipsch Titanium mid diaphragms, id that is too rich then at least a new set of Bob`s phenolic diaphragms as they are much better than the old stock phenolic diaphragms. If you go with the Ti diaphragms it might just have you looking for another set of Chorus ll`s for yourself as you may just find that it is the change you have been looking for. Bob even has a little mod just for the Ti mid diaphragms. Good luck with the new room and your Khorns if you decide to go that way. Best regards Moray James.
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I don't think Bob has phenolic diaphrams, only poly.
 
Are you reasonably comfortable doing woodworking? If so let me suggest:

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=381148&highlight=Cornscala

I'm driving them with a 60w/ch tube amp and they sound wonderful. All of the bass extension of the Cornwalls and the sweet midrange of the La Scalas. They're going to be with me for a while.

For the record I've owned Cornwalls (2 pairs 1s & 2s), La Scalas, Belles, Forte's, Quartets, KG-2s and I still own a pair of Heresys. Never had a pair of Klipschorns because I've never had suitable corners. Someday... Maybe... ;)
 
jhoak said:
Are you reasonably comfortable doing woodworking? If so let me suggest:

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=381148&highlight=Cornscala

I'm driving them with a 60w/ch tube amp and they sound wonderful. All of the bass extension of the Cornwalls and the sweet midrange of the La Scalas. They're going to be with me for a while.

For the record I've owned Cornwalls (2 pairs 1s & 2s), La Scalas, Belles, Forte's, Quartets, KG-2s and I still own a pair of Heresys. Never had a pair of Klipschorns because I've never had suitable corners. Someday... Maybe... ;)
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I am very comfortable doing woodworking. The Cornscala was in the back of my mind when I started thinking about the Cornwalls.

You did a great job building those speakers. Very nice work.
 
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wgrr said:
I am very comfortable doing woodworking. The Cornscala was in the back of my mind when I started thinking about the Cornwalls.

You did a great job building those speakers. Very nice work.
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Thank you. They look pretty good but sound even better.

If you have the means and the capabilities I highly recommend them. I have turned down absolutely stupid $$ for them.

If you'd like more detailed info about them and the build please feel free to PM me an email address or phone number. I'm always more than happy to gloat... err... discuss them with anyone. :yes:

Edit to add: If you ever find yourself in the middle of Florida you're more than welcome to come by for an audition.
 
Bob`s diaphragms...

Polarbear said:
I don't think Bob has phenolic diaphrams, only poly.
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Bob has new Titanium tweeter diaphragms for the K79 type version tweeters (ie: 1 inch dia.) and he also has new phenolic mid diaphragms for the 1.5 inch mid drivers. Bob`s new phenolic mid diaphragms are better than the stock Klipsch phenolic diaphragms but not in the same league as the Klipsch Titanium mid diaphragms. Hope this helps. Best regards Moray James.
 
tyler8 said:
jhoak said:
Are you reasonably comfortable doing woodworking? If so let me suggest:

http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=381148&highlight=Cornscala

Oh, man.....................briefly forgot all about those..................check my comments about the Khorns, I want those.........................stunning.
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I think I am going to go this route. The Cornscalas look great and I have heard they sound fantastic. jhoak has graciously offered to help me get things going. I am also close enough to Bob Crites so I can pick up whatever I need from him and save shipping cost.

I will do a build thread. It may be awhile before I start but that will give me time to gather up the drivers and Xovers.

For awhile I will be living with my stock Dynaco ST70 and my smaller Advent loudspeakers. That will sure look funny hooked up to a McIntosh C2200 pre. My Scott 299D is almost ready to fire up. That would be a pretty good integrated amp for the Cornscalas.
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So what are the opinions about the cornscala vs the khorn? That and maybe the La Scala are the only things I would give up my Chorus II's for.
 
I don't think you'll regret the decision. I love mine.

I went from Cornwalls to La Scalas. While the midrange was a HUGE improvement over the Cornwalls I was a little disappointed with the bass reproduction. What bass the LS does put out is excellent. It's just that they start rolling off rapidly at around 60Hz. They're down 4dB at 54Hz (as I recall).

I only know of one person who has gone from Klipschorns to Cornscalas. He built some really radical Cornscalas with 2 15" woofers in each cabinet. Since his initial build he's gone really extreme with them. They're now 2-way and biamped with active crossovers. He loves them. I've not heard them. I'm sure they sound great but I'd bet my last dollar that they've lost anything resembling the Klipsch characteristic sound.

All of that said if I had an opportunity to trade my Cornscalas for a pair of Klipschorns I'd probably do it. Assuming of course I had a suitable room for them which I don't right now. In the right setting with the right equipment driving them the sound they make is just stunning.

Wanna have a little fun? Put on your drool bib and check out:

http://www.klipschupgrades.com/flkhorn.shtml

I know the guy who owns these Khorns. I've heard them. An absolutely incredible experience. His speakers and system really "raised the bar" for me.
 
Dukiedook said:
So what are the opinions about the cornscala vs the khorn? That and maybe the La Scala are the only things I would give up my Chorus II's for.
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I have owned the Lascalas and the Khorns. I was never a big fan of the Lascalas. The specific reasons why I did not care for them escape my memory nowadays. It was the 70's, I was in college, and was having way to much fun partaking of the herbs my roommate's brother was sending to us from Thailand and listening to loud music. We ended up with some JBL studio monitors that were custom made in architectural cabinets. They were huge three way speakers and sounded very good. In some respects they were similar in design to the Cornwalls. The sqwaker in the JBL was a potato masher and was about 2.5 feet in length. The woofers were 21" cast aluminum with huge magnets.

I had to sell my Khorns I picked up in 1984 when I moved into my current house. That is when I bought the Chorus II's in 1995. The current garage build with the room over it is specifically designed for me to get Khorns again. The project is wife approved. I have never heard any speaker, driven with McIntosh tube gear, sound better than the Khorns.

The Cornscalas look like a fun project. When I hear them I will be able give my opinion. I can AB comparison them with the Lascalas and the Chorus II's.

I can tell you one thing. My stock Chorus II's sound fantastic with the MC40's and the C2200. I don't want to sell them. It's just that I have a friend who really wants the system and has the cash to pay for it. In reality I will probably get to listen to them more since I have an excuse now to go over to his house to check out his album, tape, and CD collection. :yes:
 
Dukiedook said:
So what are the opinions about the cornscala vs the khorn? That and maybe the La Scala are the only things I would give up my Chorus II's for.
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You have a mix of two little brothers to the Khorn. Cornwall + LaScala.

As a disclaimer, I've never heard a Cornscala.

Regarding the Cornwall & LaScala....neither one on their own will surpass a Khorn (my opinion and I'd presume the opinion of many others)

Therefore, I'd have a hard time thinking that combined they'd beat the Khorn. Presuming of course, good corners for the Khorns.

I've heard Cornwalls several times, had a pair in my house for a couple months. I've owned LaScalas for 30 years and owned Khorns (now sold) for about 3 years.
 
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