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Deck damaging only one end of the tape?

mhedges

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I just got a Sony TC-WA9ES dual autoreverse deck from eBay and it seems to work fine except for one quirk - Deck B is wrinkling/ damaging the far end of the tape. I am not sure exactly how much of the tape is affected but it is no more than 5 minutes. Also, it seems to be causing damage even when it is just fast forwarding - ie without playing.

Any ideas?
 
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What kind of damage? I had a similar experience with my Sony TC-KE500S. I say "had" because it's not in use anymore (belt issue) and I've swapped in a superior Yamaha deck in its place but the issue with the Sony never went away while I was using it. I never really got to the bottom of it and a post here about it met with suggestions that it was poorly manufactured newer tape but I still could never figure out why it was only at one end. Does yours put a sort of crease across the tape every inch or two for the last few minutes? I had the theory that it might be from where the leader attaches to the spool but the creases didn't seem to line up with that.
 
Yep it puts a crease in. I am thinking it is a pinch roller issue. It actually causes a lot more damage in FF/RW than in play/record.

I cleaned the rollers with IPA and it seemed to get a little better. I ordered some CAIG RBR cleaner/restorer. I will see if that helps.

Mark
 
Yep it puts a crease in. I am thinking it is a pinch roller issue. It actually causes a lot more damage in FF/RW than in play/record.

I cleaned the rollers with IPA and it seemed to get a little better. I ordered some CAIG RBR cleaner/restorer. I will see if that helps.

Mark


Brown buildup on the capstan or roller?
Excessive take up torque....tapes crease at beginning only.

Tape guide problem.

Can you flip the rubber roller? It could be that one edge is worn so badly that
the tape isn't secure on that edge.
 
I had a similar issue, but with a brand new deck which ruined some tapes and gave me an education on what stereo equipment just to stay away from. When I was 14 I was buying my first stereo from saved allowance and grass cutting. I had already bought a Pioneer SX-1300 receiver which is nothing special, but better than what most 14 year olds had at the time. I bought a Scott dubbing deck which I thought was a great deal because it had an auto reverse deck and dual dolby.

The first one I bought had some serious speed issue as if it had a binding belt so I took it back, but the second one which seemed to be fine would eat the tape but only on the beginning of side B on the recording, non auto reverse deck. This problem baffled me since it was never side A. As it turned out, the deck was actually messing the tape up via a misshapen pinch roller on the initial play though on side A. The tape was messed up enough that it would mistrack once side B was started. Luckily this deck went back and I got refund since I did not want another dud and I was appalled at the fact that Scott, then owned by Emerson used one drive motor to supply two decks. I bought a JVC for slightly more that was very reliable.

Basically what I am saying is you need to replace that pinch roller if you can as that is the culprit. I don't know how it got so misshapen unless it has lots of hours on it from a previous owner or in the case of my father with a Sanyo cassette deck in his 1981 Chevy Citation X11, put the wrong fluid on the pinch roller to cause it to harden up, thus eat the tape. Oddly enough this now helps me figure out why his Concord F-400 ate tapes and mine didn't.
 
I still don't understand why it (or mine at least) would only crease one end of the tape -- namely the end of Side A / beginning of Side B. Why would it not do the same thing to the other end when the tape is flipped?
 
I still don't understand why it (or mine at least) would only crease one end of the tape -- namely the end of Side A / beginning of Side B. Why would it not do the same thing to the other end when the tape is flipped?

The tape might be shifted off center after one pass, so it won't crease on the second when flipped.
 
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