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Diamond Wharfedale 10.1?

RunOutGroove

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Since upgrading my speakers to some Elac Debut 6.2s and being really happy with the sound, I've been on a kick to do some other upgrades. I'd like to upgrade my extension speakers now as well and I've been combing the ads and saw some Diamond Wharfedale 10.1 speakers selling for $100. I'd be using them with my Marantz 2270 and I wonder if folks think that this would be a good combo (and reasonable price), particularly since these are 6 (rather than 8ohm) speakers and aren't rated all that high for efficiency. The Marantz is I guess what would be considered a medium-power amp, but certainly not super powerful (I think that it's rated at 80-85 watts, no?)

Also on the same ad, I see that the seller also has for sale a pair of Klipsch KG3 speakers for $75. The Wharfedales are newer I think, but better? What would be the ad/disadvantages of this speaker vs the Wharfedales?
 
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Depends what type of sound your going for , I’ve never heard diamonds but wow both speakers you found so cheap .Id buy both haha .
I nearly bought diamonds 5 years ago but klipsch icon was much cheaper .​
 
(I think that it's rated at 80-85 watts, no?)
No. It's official rating is 70 watts per channel, hence the last three digits being 2 - 7 - 0 (2 X 70 watts.)
Of course many amplifiers and receivers were underrated by the manufacturers a little so probably does max out at 80 -- 85 watts per channel.
 
Ok... I bought the Wharfedales, how could I not, they were so damn cheap? I have them hooked up and am listening to them now. Admittedly, I don't have them placed ideally yet.... I need to rearrange my room a bit and get longer cables to be able to put them in a better spot in the room where I'm using them and then I'll have them on some stands that the guy I bought them from threw in with the deal. Also, the guy that I bought them from said that he hand't put much milage on these and having read about them a bit I understand that they can take a while to break in to sound their very best.

All that being said though, first impressions: I don't like them as much as the Elac Debut 6.2 speakers that I'm running on the other (larger) room. The both same the same quality of being really dynamic and having a kind of sense of depth about them, but in terms of the imaging, the Elacs seem to sound very spacious all over the room, where the Wharfedales seem to be much fussier about where you are in the room in relationship to them. You loose the sense to stereo depth very quickly when you move off-center. More importantly than that though is the fundamental sound of them, which seems more tilted to the highs and those highs are more aggressive/harsh to my ears. There's a smoothness and a sense of hearing more of the complex overtones (more realism, somehow) that the Elacs have, which the Wharfedales lack.

Who knows though, with more ideal placement (or least what I'm thinking will be more ideal) and more time (maybe much more time) for them to break in, I might really love these speakers. If they can sound as good as the Elacs sound to me, I'll be very happy. At some point, I might have to do an A/B comparison of both of the speakers in my living room (where I think that the acoustics are probably the best), then I'll better understand the differences between the two.

Incidentally, the recordings that I've been using to test the gear are The Flaming Lips album The Soft Bulletin and something by a Austrian percussionist named Reinhard Flatischler called Layers of Time. The Flaming Lips LP is as dynamic as any recording that I've heard, going from the most relaxed pastoral vibes to the most crushingly intense in different movements of the same song. I feel that it's a real audiophile kind of album in a way that lots of albums from the 70s were (Dark Side of the Moon) and that seems far rarer on recent recordings, though the record is admittedly not all that recent being 20 years old at this point (though it doesn't seem like music has changed very much though in that period of time). The Reinhard Flatischler album is totally different being an all acoustic affair. It's not really as percussive as one might think, favoring the textural side of percussion in a way that's very beautiful and less often heard. It's really fantastically recorded and has a kind of depth that few other recordings that I've heard have. It doesn't hurt that the band on in is comprised of several of the greatest percussionists in the world including Zakir Hussain and Airto (and several others)...

What do you think, am I likely to love these Wharfedales a lot more given some very careful room placement and more hours to break in, or maybe these are just not for me...? I guess that if I end up not really getting on with these things then I can sell them for the same $100 that I bought them for (they're really in prefect shape).
 
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You didn't buy those Diamond 10.1s for $100, you stole them. :music:

I paid roughly double that for a new pair when they were on sale, and felt like it was a huge bang for the buck. Liked them so much, that I got some Wharfedale Diamond towers for the front of the room to match them.

But I'll also echo what you suspect: they do take quite some time to break in. Not sure if it's due to the kevlar material they use, but I've heard other owners of Wharfs mention that on various forums.

So I'd rec you give them a chance.

Alternatively, if you live anywhere near VA, I'll come get them for what you paid. :beerchug:
 
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