DML Flat Panel Speakers

[Don P]

Hi All
i am trying to find someone that has built dml flat panel speakers or has heard them.

i am building a new amp 6bq5 se type about 5 watts speakers of low power with high spl are quite pricey.
while i was searching i found a video and diy how to build them,
the exciter can be had for low price and low watts.
here is the video i seen and links for part and build.

video

build page http://projectgallery.parts-express.com/speaker-projects/dml-flat-pannel/
Exciters & Tactile Transducers http://www.parts-express.com/cat/exciters-tactile-transducers/18

anyone heard them?

Don P

 

[sreten]

Hi,

Presuming you don't have an advanced digital EQ planned give them a miss.

The whole process is far too crude and far too hit and miss as described.

I've observed the NXT, DML and BML arena with interest since it started.

If your interested in the concept your best bet IMHO is finding some
used Wharfedale LoudPanel speakers with the subwoofer. Bought
wisely, at the right price, they certainly will not lose any value.

Its obvious the techonology didn't take off, but it does have some
beguiling qualities, which you can rack up against frustrations.
Can't explain it, you have to hear it to make up your own mind.

FWIW I took a system travelling with me very similar to this :

For music mainly. Surprisingly it excelled on live music tracks
and when used for for AV from my laptop with a projector.

rgds, sreten.

 

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I'd try them. You may fail, but you may not.

 

[westend]

A guy stopped in to have me fix his receiver and brought a pair of foam flat panel speakers. These were mfg successfully for a few years but for the life of me, I can't remember the name. IIRC, they had a descriptive prefix in the name, something like, "The Incredible...". Anyway, after fixing a connection problem with the speakers he offered them to me for free. I passed on them, the sound was revolting.

 

[janikphoto]

A guy stopped in to have me fix his receiver and brought a pair of foam flat panel speakers. These were mfg successfully for a few years but for the life of me, I can't remember the name. IIRC, they had a descriptive prefix in the name, something like, "The Incredible...". Anyway, after fixing a connection problem with the speakers he offered them to me for free. I passed on them, the sound was revolting.

Yeah, there's been threads here on that brand over the years, but I also forget the brand. I saw a pair once on CL, but I passed. I'd still try them, if I walk by a cheap pair, but I haven't seen them in any thrifts or garage sales yet.

 

[seb9316]

A guy stopped in to have me fix his receiver and brought a pair of foam flat panel speakers. These were mfg successfully for a few years but for the life of me, I can't remember the name. IIRC, they had a descriptive prefix in the name, something like, "The Incredible...". Anyway, after fixing a connection problem with the speakers he offered them to me for free. I passed on them, the sound was revolting.

Are you referring to the Carver "Amazing Loudspeaker" ?

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[westend]

Are you referring to the Carver "Amazing Loudspeaker" ?

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No, those aren't revolting. The prefix escapes me too, but the speakers I saw had a foam board panel as the cone material.

 

[Don P]

Hi All

Thanks for the response. information is spotty on this subject at best. i found a pdf by parts express on this subject. here is the link
http://www.parts-express.com/pedocs/buyer-guides/understanding-and-using-dayton-audio-exciters.pdf
i will order two of the lower power Exciters and give it a try. that is how you learn. lol

i run open baffle bi-amped in my living room, i am building a se 6bq5 amp for my bed room 3 or 4 watts.
i have seen a video on youtube where a guy has them mounted to the wall. that would work for me.
some of the exciters are down to 4 or 5 watt. and $3.50 each. might even try them on my head board in my bed. lol

Don

 

[janikphoto]

Are you referring to the Carver "Amazing Loudspeaker" ?

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At first I thought you were making a joke or teasing him, as the Carvers don't have any foam drivers... but, I guess I can see how you might suggest them with the "incredible" and "amazing" monikers. No, the pair he's referring to has white styrofoam drivers. I wish I could recall the brand. I see a pair pop up on CL every few years.

 

[westend]

Went searching and found the revolters-Bertagnani electrostatic: http://www.thevintageknob.org/THEVAULT2/BES/BES.html

 

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Went searching and found the revolters-Bertagnani electrostatic: http://www.thevintageknob.org/THEVAULT2/BES/BES.html

That's the one!!! The Bertagni.

 

[JoeESP9]

Here's a picture.
BTW: They are not electrostatics.