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Dr. Strangelove (the movie , that is)

Hollywood is way too infatuated w/prettyboys...I can't think off hand of a single "he-man" type, under 65, anyway. Back in the day, there were all sorts of them, but now they're long gone. Sterling, to me, was a very nice looking man, in a craggy way, but nobody could accuse him of being a "prettyboy".
 
ekmanning5 said:
I only want to know one thing; where are the George C. Scotts among todays actors? Where are the Sterling Haydons? Where are the Peter Sellers'? These guys were great. The shots of Sterling Hayden during one of his extended monologues when the camera was below his face...classic. With all due respect to todays film industry...they DON"T make them like this anymore.
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Well, they don't make Stanley Kubricks anymore, either.
 
Excellent timing. I borrowed this movie from a friend over the weekend. I haven't seen it in a couple of decades and look forward to watching it again in the next couple of days.
 
pmsummer said:
Well, they don't make Stanley Kubricks anymore, either.
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About two years ago I stumbled across another Kubrik gem; "Paths of Glory". If you EVER get a chance to watch this great anti-war movie, please do. You will not be disappointed.
 
Another Kubrick flick w/Sterling Hayden was "The Killing"-I THINK that's the name of it-from '56 or so. Great Film Noir. Sterling was a big man, kinda menacing presence, & that serves him VERY well in this movie...
 
ekmanning5 said:
I gave this a second veiwing last night before I shipped it back. I only want to know one thing; where are the George C. Scotts among todays actors? Where are the Sterling Haydons? Where are the Peter Sellers'? These guys were great. The shots of Sterling Hayden during one of his extended monologues when the camera was below his face...classic. With all due respect to todays film industry...they DON"T make them like this anymore.
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You pose a great and important question for film lovers.

I am going to start another thread rather than hijack this one.

It is topic that deserves more disccussion.
 
For a real crazy ride with Hayden and Joan Crawford, look for "Johnny Guitar" Directed by Nicolas Ray, 1954. Shows up every so often on TCM or when Crawford is featured on a film review weekend. Has an uncredited appearance by Dennis Hopper (Ray later put him in Rebel Without A Cause).

More fun stuff about it here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047136/

Hayden is one of those actors, like Robert Mitchum, who were better than their press.

For more on him: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001330/
 
What a great movie, a long time favorite.

"Your average commie has no respect for human life, not even his own"

"But...but...he'll see the big board"

I'm LOL'n as I type this.
 
"I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

"Okay. I'm gonna get your money for ya. But if you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you?"
"What?"
"You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company."

Strangelove and Paths of Glory are Kubrick's best, IMO. And most of 2001 (I don't take drugs any more, so the flight through the wormhole is a bit over-the-top now). But, as I've got them all (except for the pre-The Killing ones), I guess I can pick 'n' choose as I like.

Who made his movie debut in this film...?
 
As far as "Paths of Glory" goes; one can see Adolphe Monjue as the actual "hero" of the movie and the Kirk Douglas character as an unrealistic sap.

Monjue realizes that France MUST beat Germany and this can ony be done by a disiplined army. Douglas takes the high road over three lives while hundreds of thousands are being killed until Germany is beaten. Monjue sees the big picture and Douglas the small one.
 
Tom Brennan said:
As far as "Paths of Glory" goes; one can see Adolphe Monjue as the actual "hero" of the movie and the Kirk Douglas character as an unrealistic sap.

Monjue realizes that France MUST beat Germany and this can ony be done by a disiplined army. Douglas takes the high road over three lives while hundreds of thousands are being killed until Germany is beaten. Monjue sees the big picture and Douglas the small one.
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Ahhh, you see, that's the sign of a good movie. One that brings about intelligent discussion. A very tricky argument here.
My take on it is that Monjue belongs to a class of men as old as civilisation itself. The kind that repeatedly see only the small picture. The kind of man that believes that war is a solution to war. When actually the wars just keep coming. I think Douglas comes to believe in the futility of the system. When the three men are executed they have finally beat the system. DOUGLAS may be the only one that truly sees the big picture.
 
ekmanning5 said:
Ahhh, you see, that's the sign of a good movie. One that brings about intelligent discussion. A very tricky argument here.
My take on it is that Monjue belongs to a class of men as old as civilisation itself. The kind that repeatedly see only the small picture. The kind of man that believes that war is a solution to war. When actually the wars just keep coming. I think Douglas comes to believe in the futility of the system. When the three men are executed they have finally beat the system. DOUGLAS may be the only one that truly sees the big picture.
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But Douglas's belief in the futility of the system doesn't get them out of the immediate peril, a war with a vicious and predatory nation.

Perhaps Douglas takes a bigger view of mankind and Monjue takes a bigger view of the war.

I haven't watched the picture in a few years, I should watch it again.

Regards
 
Tom Brennan said:
But Douglas's belief in the futility of the system doesn't get them out of the immediate peril, a war with a vicious and predatory nation.

Perhaps Douglas takes a bigger view of mankind and Monjue takes a bigger view of the war.

I haven't watched the picture in a few years, I should watch it again.

Regards
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Me too.:thmbsp:
 
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