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Dual 701 and 704

62vauxhall said:
If one must stay and one must go, myself, I'd keep the 701.

There are always a fair number of Duals available locally where I live but few are direct drive. Of those, 701's seem to sell the fastest and go for a pretty good buck. So maybe one can consider them a better investment from an appreciation stand point.

I have multiple turntables including a 701 and a couple of years ago, got a 721. It was an opportunity buy and of interest only because some opinions I read said it was Dual's best ever turntable. Alternating between the two, it did not really strike me as superlative. I found the 701 to have a better tactile feel to it, felt more substantial and frankly, thought it was better looking. Intangible, but I get satisfaction from owning Dual's first direct drive and that it's motor was unique for the time. I gave away the 721.

My first good turntable was bought new in 1968 and it was a Dual so I've been an aficionado ever since. My mother would take me along when she went looking at console stereos in department stores but if it did not contain a Dual, I told her it wasn't very good. She was basically just furniture shopping. Not that I've never strayed but I can't keep away from Duals.

My total turntable tally is nine, four of which are Duals. Since I think having nine turntables is silly, I am often thinking which to keep. Three seems a comfortable number but which two would be best company for the 701? I really like the original version 1009 I got last June (I've been using it-almost exclusively since then) but I also like my original version 1015 because that's the model I got in 1968. The 1015F is good too, it's been my 78 & 7" 45 player for the last couple of years - stacking spindles included.

But then, I really like the looks of my Garrard Zero 100's. Also, the looks of my fully manual and fully automatic Toshiba direct drives. Those have standardized headshells which is a nice break from cartridge sleds. I also have a silly number of cartridges.

The two I would have the least problem relinquishing are a semi-auto direct drive JVC and a fully auto belt drive CEC.

But I digress. Your choice is easier - keep the 701. If for no other reason than it's more historic.
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I really don’t think You can have too many. 7 hooked up. All Duals. 4 1219s,a 1019, a 1226, it’s PE cousin 3046. A mint early 1219 I broke its d ring. And foolishly got a 1249 that UPS ruined. Looking at a 1009 here. Don’t need. Have extra bases for it. Hope I have an extra BEST sled. Miss my Zero 100! Not thrilled with DuAl direct drives. Don’t want to deal with electronics. Thougth Monty’s 701 looks good.
 
soundguy9 said:
Hello hombostel, I just picked up a 704 in pieces as a project. Since you have both the 704 and 506, would you know if the 704 fits in the 506 plinth?

I have been reviving the Dual turntables for the past few months and really enjoy working on them, they make great puzzles for me and they sound good when tunned properly.
We are playing records all day long.
When I accumulate too many units, my wife sells them on marketplace. I think I am making an average of 20 bucks after all costs in but she has very happy buyers. I am starting to build a reputation here:)
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Yes, the 704 fits the 506 plinth perfectly.
My 704 in a 506 plinth (unmodified except for the custom aluminum faceplate):
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I just learned about the 701’s 2x resonance counter weight. This one is broken and I can’t find any replacement units anywhere. I guess this one is doomed:(
 
In search of a new counter weight, I have stumbled on a Dual CS607 counter weight? Would this work with my 704?
 
soundguy9 said:
In search of a new counter weight, I have stumbled on a Dual CS607 counter weight? Would this work with my 704?
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It might be useful if you post the weight of the 701 counterweight, the diameter of the mounting shaft and a picture of it's profile. Otherwise only people who have a 607 counterweight AND a 701 counterweight and are willing to take them off the tables can answer that question.
Without having either, I'd guess that the 607 counterweight may be too light as that is an ulm arm.
My guess the 704/721 counterweight is maybe a better match.
 
Hello mr-petit, you are correct.
To my surprize, people before me have swept all the 704 and 721 counter weights and there are none available to purchase today.

The shaft diamter for the 607 counter weight is smaller than the 701. I am more interested to know that if I manage to increase the shaft diameter with some other material and perhaps add more weight to the counter weight, would it then have the same affect as the original counter weight or am I wasting whatever brain cells that are left in this skull.

I am sad to learn that we can not restore these beauties to their original condition as Dual meant it to be in the 1970s.
 
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soundguy9 said:
I just learned about the 701’s 2x resonance counter weight. This one is broken and I can’t find any replacement units anywhere. I guess this one is doomed:(
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I just happen to have a complete 701 tonearm which is of no use to me. However I’m in the uk and you’re in Canada?
 
Chops54 said:
I just happen to have a complete 701 tonearm which is of no use to me. However I’m in the uk and you’re in Canada?
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UK is the best country in the world IMHO but, the shipping costs may prohibit purchasing the tonearm. What are your thoughts, should I look into it?
 
soundguy9 said:
UK is the best country in the world IMHO but, the shipping costs may prohibit purchasing the tonearm. What are your thoughts, should I look into it?
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I don’t want anything for the arm. It’s the right one as I took it off my own 701 when I modified it. If you pm me an address I can find out how much it would cost to send then it will be up to you to decide.
 
Chops54 said:
I don’t want anything for the arm. It’s the right one as I took it off my own 701 when I modified it. If you pm me an address I can find out how much it would cost to send then it will be up to you to decide.
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This is very kind of you, Chops54. I shared a message with shipping address and looking forward to hear back from you. It is appreciated, thank you.
 
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