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Dual and Technics cartridge alignment questions (sorry if basic)

N8Nagel

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Yes, I did try to search but came up without getting a definitive answer - an old Dual turntable, e.g. 1019, 1219, 1229 etc., if you use the alignment gauge to install a new cartridge, what alignment were the folks at Dual trying to achieve? Baerwald? Loefgren B? Stevenson? Something else? I have the gauges (actually Best Audio reproductions) but was thinking of getting some mirrored protractors to double check post install.

Sidebar question #1: let's just say for the sake of argument that it's Baerwald. If one wanted to experiment, could one use a different alignment standard like Stevenson and still expect to be able to adjust the table for proper set down in the lead in? I remember that there's almost no adjustment for this (my 1229 started off as a basket case, albeit way too nice to not restore, so after it was all back together I had to basically act like it was a brand new table), although both my tables do set down more or less properly when the cart is aligned per the gauge. That question is actually what prompted this; I saw someone post about adjusting the set down location and I was going to reply to check the cartridge alignment first, but I realized that I didn't have all the information at my fingertips to make a really helpful post.

Sidebar question #2: while trying to find an answer to the first question, I saw some mention that the stylus tip should be not only aligned with the notch in the gauge but also physically close to the plastic. On my 1229Q I have installed an Audio Technica AT15Sa with a new JICO Shibata stylus, and it is well below the notch when I used the gauge; I didn't really finely set it up but eyeballically the tonearm looks about level. I honestly don't even remember how close any of the other carts I have mounted are to the plastic (Shure M91E clip mount, Shure M91ED, and Micro Acoustics MA2002E) Given this though, should I look into getting an assortment of cartridge shims? The AT/JICO will light the CD-4 light on both my Sansui QRX-7001 and Marantz CD-400 and also sounds great to my ears, although I do realize that there's always possibility for better sound unless it's been set up by a true expert.

Sidebar question #3: would the answers to any of the questions above change if we're talking about a Technics SL-1xxx and its similar overhang gauge, or would they be the same? I also have a SL-1650 with several cartridges and headshells for it also (including AT15Sa and MA2002E bodies, the former was deliberate and I happened into the latter)

Thanks in advance for any comments.
 
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Which alignment were the Dual engineers aiming for? Who knows. Having used a CS 708 some time ago, I seem to recall it was something like a Stevenson. It is often not one of the big three, so a mirrored protractor will not be too useful.

1 - yes, most Duals have a screw you can adjust through the top plate somewhere near the tonearm which will allow you to adjust the lead-in position for automatic operation. Vinylengine should have some user manuals or service manuals.

2 - I am hesitant to say that you'd need cartridge shims. Recall that your stylus should sit at a 22 degree angle when sitting on the surface of the LP - check that before you add shims. The AT15 doesnt look to be an unusually short cartridge.

3 - I know less about Technics turntables, so it's hard to say. Stick with that 22 degree angle though for question 2.
 
As far as I recall, Dual used an alignment that was close to Baerwald
 
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