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Empire 698 Turntable: Should I buy it?

patcurtin

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There is a local classified ad for an Empire 698 Troubador. I've been looking for a nice vintage turntable for every day use. This seems like it was at the top of the line when it came out, but I don't really hear about these tables too often. Here is the ad below:
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Empire Troubadour 698 Gold Vintage HI-Fidelity Turntable w Empire XES 1000 Cartridge.

This Empire turntable is in exceptional condition; gold finish is not pitted, all controls work, original power and output cords included (not shown). The only reason I'm selling this unit is because I moved from a house to a small apartment. It is a collector's piece which I displayed rather than used. However, in this apartment I no longer have room for both this Empire turntable and my player turntable.

My memory is a bit vague, yet I recall that the last (and best) of the Empire 698's could be identified by the black 45 RPM center insert - which this player is. $875 cash.


Background Information

Originally introduced in 1976, the Troubadour 698 was one of Empire's shining achievements. When released it exceeded every broadcast specification for professional playback equipment.

- Tone arm: Empire designed a brand new arm for the 698 vs the preceding 598. The arm moves on 32 jeweled, sapphire bearings. Vertical and horizontal bearing friction is a mere 0.001 gram.

- Platter: Two piece, 7 lbs., 3 inch thick, die cast aluminum platter, dynamically balanced.

- End of Record Lift - when the end of the record is reached, arm automatically raises.


Specifications

Motor : Hysteresis Synchronous type, self cooling high torque with inside-out rotor, locks in on AC line frequency, maintains speed accuracy with zero error, dynamically balanced

Rumble: 68dB below 3.54 cm/sec at 1,000Hz

Average Wow & Flutter: 0.04%

Start-Up Time: 1/3 rev.

Platter Weight: 7 lbs. 3 oz

Arm Length: 9" pivot to stylus

Bearing Friction: vertical & horizontal less than 0.001 grams

Maximum Lateral Tracking Angle Error: 1.5*

Tracking Force Range: 0 to 4 grams (1/2 gram increments)

Speeds: 45 & 33 1/3 rpm

Power: 117 Vac 60Hz

Dimensions: 17 1/2" W x 8 1/2" H x 15 1/4" D

Stand-Alone Weight: 24 lbs
 
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I have a 598 3 speed, and I am a fan... but you can get a lot of turntable for 900 bones. I'd offer him 500 and when he balks, tell him the 500 will be the same offer in a month when he still has it.
 
If you like that general style, the 598 is more reliable than the 698. The 598 has a manual cue lever. The 598 was produced from 1969-1976.

I have a 298 from 1961. The are precision machined and have only a few parts (which means less chance of failure). They are extremely good performers. Inky black backgrounds and virtually unmeasurable wow and flutter. I'm running a Denon 103R on my 298 and it will mop the floor with many turntables made today.
 
Monkboughtlunch is right. I had a 298 and a 598. The 298 is better. I doubt the 698 is a quantum leap over the 598, and $900 is way too much. I paid $150 for my 598 and sold it for $375. And the fact that he only "displayed it rather than used it" raises lots of questions...

He gives lots of information, but never even says "It works."
 
Thanks guys....I thought it seemed a little high but I hardly ever see rare turntables where I live, so I was curious. The fact that he didn't use it was definitely a concern. Good to know the older models are better built. Very interesting brand...
 
Here's what a 298 looks like. (208 base + 98 tonearm = 298). It doesn't have the cue lever and suspended platter that the 598/698 have but is extremely reliable and well built.

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208, and 598 are the best Empire turntables to own. More reliable than the 698 and it's less than reliable nature. Cosmetics on 698 turntables have not aged well either.
 
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