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Empire Cartridge Questions

Chief Brody

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Morning everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster.

I've searched the internets for a little bit, looking for info on an Empire cartridge on a 698 I'm acquiring. Haven't had much luck, so I thought I'd ask here.

Cart reads: 122 XE/N

The body of the cart is gold and the plastic housing of the stylus is purple. (if that helps or matters)

Thanks in advance for any and all help!
 
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Empires are often hard to identify for several reasons. First among them is the fact that they made a ton of private label versions for every type of customer from turntable manufacturers (Marantz) to department store chains (E.J. Korvette's) to record store chains. We can often determine what model a cartridge is a clone of by identifying the stylus installed in the cartridge. That's not a sure bet because there's no way of determining whether the stylus is the original one or the same as the original.

With that caveat let's proceed with identifying your 122 XE/N. The gold body doesn't really tell us anything. Empire offered these "Blob on a Clip" cartridges in gold, silver and black and Empire didn't always use the color of the original when making a clone thereof. So, the gold body isn't diagnostic. The purple stylus, however, is identifiable. It's an S912E, a 0.2 x 0.7 mil diasa* elliptical. The S912E was used on the 999VE/X [edit: 999QE/X] Wrong!!! [edit #2: it's a 66QE/X] cartridge and all of its numerous clones. It was the top of the line in the Empire Rex series. As such, it was a popular choice for wholesale customers looking for a private label cartridge.

So, that's probably what you have. If so, you have a very good cartridge, one of the best of the Blobs but the only way to tell for sure is to measure the DC resistance of the coils. It should measure around 550 ohms but that would have to wait until the turntable is in your possession. Hope this helps you to make the right decision.

* diasa: a diamond stylus tip glued to a sapphire base, a cheap but effective means if approximating the virtues of a nude stylus.
 
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Yes, that looks right. Only trouble is I gave you the wrong number for the stylus. I should have said 999QE/X. I've corrected the post. Sorry if my mistake has sent you down the wrong rabbit hole.
 
I'll try again. The cartridge is a 66QE/X. Sheesh! Bad brain day. Corrected above. The Empire number for the stylus is S912E and the aftermarket Pfanstiehl number is 239-PDE. I have to go lie down now.
 
C. Brody: Thanks for the photos of a 66 clone I'd never seen before. That does look convincingly like a cartridge with its original purple S912E stylus. If the diamond isn't worn, it should sound very nice tracking at about 1.25 grams. Make sure the diamond is free of crud and give it a try.
 
C. Brody: Thanks for the photos of a 66 clone I'd never seen before. That does look convincingly like a cartridge with its original purple S912E stylus. If the diamond isn't worn, it should sound very nice tracking at about 1.25 grams. Make sure the diamond is free of crud and give it a try.


Good to know. I’ll keep that in mind! And glad I could present something new.
 
Old thread I'm sorry, I have a stylus like this and was wondering why they made these solid purple like a crayon the 912 I've been use to seeing is clear purple?
I almost thought these were aftermarket but they have a tiny logo on the front of a circle with a (c) not sure what it is?
I also have a marantz 1000 cartridge with the same stylus but green like a crayon green? Not sure what's better and if the colors make a difference also a solid red and a solid white?
I just was wondering what was the best in this series of crayon color stylus?
The other problem I'm having with these Empire cartridges is they advertised some as being nude diamond stylus but after hunting them down on the internet and buying them they all seem to be bonded but beautiful clear tip bonded?
I been trying to get the best sounding of this Empire cartridge stylus line.
The only ones nude are the old round shaft 999xex s/ex.they are nude but cloudy they sound amazing and right up there with my stanton 981hzs 881S ADC Astrion not much different in sound.
The 999xex sex series are nude from black,purple, white, blue,yellow!! I was shocked and I have all these now. The red was bonded.
The best sounding so far is the Empire 4000d II 4000d I they have a tapered cantilever but the same bonded needle even though the advertisements say nude.
Im looking for a 4000d III hopefully its a nude?
I even got a Empire e2000III and its bonded with the clear stylus no flip down stylus protector but came with a gold metal clip on stylus protector. Original in the box sounds amazing but not as good as the 999xex or 4000d II.
If anyone can help me with this Empire thing I would appreciate all the help and old school knowledge I can get. I have read for hours and still cant get answers?
I really like these cartridges and won't give up looking for original nude top of the line ones.
Thank you for reading all this sorry for my poor grammar.
Scott .
 
@a-cman2 Here's a thread you should check out. Yeah, it's huge, but well worth reading through (yes, I have)...
 
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