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Filtering pond water.....

To do it right for suspended solids removal, he would need to use a screen first (for the big stuff) followed by a multi-media sand filter. He could fabricate a couple of these from some steel drums with removable lids, but understand that they would have to be backwashed periodically to clear out the accumulated particulates. Backwashing needs a high flow rate to "expand" the sand bed to flush the junk, so this quickly becomes a bit of an engineering project.

The simpler way is to simply pay a tanker truck (say for milk) to haul a load or two of water from a nearby town. Faster, probably cheaper, definitely safer. (This is your potable water engineer talking here - I design and build the treatment systems for Pepsi plants)

Again, why not bag filters? They don't cost much and have a high flow rate until clogged. If water is being taken from the top of the pond vs. the bottom, lots of the heavy solids will be there. Also, aren't sand filters glacially slow? I am just asking not telling. My experience with bag filters was watching them process the crap out of cooking oil for biodiesel production.
 
My parents have their own well. Their fairly large in-ground swimming pool is in need of some repair right now, but when it's up and running, they fill it with a garden hose directly connected to the well head. It takes a couple of days to fill, but that's not really a big deal.

Great point. If you're not trying to use your well pump to fill a 2" line, a garden hose would restrict flow rate to the point where the pump could probably keep up. Just shut it off while you take your shower!:D
 
This kinda seems like its fast becoming "More trouble than its Worth" category...I'd try the local fire dept...
 
IIRC, our local fire department charges between $100-$200 to fill a pool. If he doesn't already have a big enough pump (or can't borrow/rent one) to do the job, he won't buy one for that price.
 
I can remember as a kid the local fire company doing this as well. When we stupidly put up a pool, twice, in the last few years they wouldn't touch it. Cost me around $600 to fill each. The town lawyers were quick to stop the FD from filling pools, what happens when one craps out? Wish I could have put the lawyer on the bottom of the pool while filling it.
 
Again, why not bag filters? They don't cost much and have a high flow rate until clogged. If water is being taken from the top of the pond vs. the bottom, lots of the heavy solids will be there. Also, aren't sand filters glacially slow? I am just asking not telling. My experience with bag filters was watching them process the crap out of cooking oil for biodiesel production.

A good bag filter system is capable of filtration levels down to 1 micron. Sand filters are not much slower, most vessels are capable of very good flow rates, just need a good pumping system either way you want to go.
 
Great point. If you're not trying to use your well pump to fill a 2" line, a garden hose would restrict flow rate to the point where the pump could probably keep up. Just shut it off while you take your shower!:D

Or washing dishes. :D
 
My father and I fill our 20k gallon inground every year with water from a creek about 250 yards down the road. We pump out the water left in over the winter, powerwash the liner and get everything ready to go about a week or so before we fill it. We use a trash pump and 2-1/2" firehose, it takes about 12 hours to fill. No filters except for a strainer basket on the pump-end.

Using the creek water is MUCH MUCH faster than trying to bring the stagnate water around, and much cheaper as far as chemicals are concerned. The crap drops out in a day or 2 of shocking it, a D/E filter, and careful application of chemistry takes care of the rest, its crystal clear and swimable in a week.

As far as legality is concerned, we're out in the sticks. The local volunteer fire departments are much more eager to lend you a dozen lengths of hose than they are to use their limited resources to fill your pool. Likewise, one of our neighbors complained about where we routed the hose one year (we had asked his wife if she minded about 6 hours before), and called the sheriff. The sheriff drove up, saw what we were doing, looked our setup over, nodded, and drove off without so much as a word. So long as you aren't being an idiot, or going out of your way to inconvenience anybody, I doubt anyone will bother you about filling a pool using a river, creek, or large pond.
 
Thought maybe someone here may know this :)

One of the guys at work wants to fill his swimming pool out of his pond, because his well can't handle that kind of volume. Bearing in mind that this will not be potable water and will be shocked/chlorinated for the pool, anyone know a way to filter out most of the crap to be able to use the pond water?

A buddy of mine once filled his brand new pool out in the country from a farm pond. He just filtered the water through this pool sand filter. It was crystal clear when he got done. Think he had to dump the sand filter and refill it with new sand though. Very doable.....
 
A buddy of mine once filled his brand new pool out in the country from a farm pond. He just filtered the water through this pool sand filter. It was crystal clear when he got done. Think he had to dump the sand filter and refill it with new sand though. Very doable.....

These were exactly my thoughts; let the pool filter do the work. I'd just set up some sort of bag, net, mesh or settling tank up front to keep out the big chunks and shock it good once filled.

As far as "pond draining" or other nonsense like that, what's the difference if YOU take it out of the pond or the locality does via their water system? Oooops, sorry, trying to be sensible again...:rolleyes:
 
A good bag filter system is capable of filtration levels down to 1 micron. Sand filters are not much slower, most vessels are capable of very good flow rates, just need a good pumping system either way you want to go.

Why would you need to filter down to one micron?
 
Again, why not bag filters? They don't cost much and have a high flow rate until clogged. If water is being taken from the top of the pond vs. the bottom, lots of the heavy solids will be there. Also, aren't sand filters glacially slow? I am just asking not telling. My experience with bag filters was watching them process the crap out of cooking oil for biodiesel production.

Bag filters have a very low total surface area compared to a similarly sized sand filter. When suspended solids are captured on any filter, they quickly begin to build up thickness, thereby increasing the resistance required to pass the water flow through it, which increases the pressure needed to pump water through it. With a bag, you only have the total surface of the membrane to capture solids, where in a sand filter you have the entire volume of the sand, exponentially increasing the effective capture surface area compared to to a bag in a similar sized vessel.

Actually, sand filters are capable of very high unit flow rates provided that they are periodically backwashed. They are the standard filtration means for suspended solids removal in all medium and large scale water treatment systems.

Why should this fellow filter pond water? Shock chlorination is at best 99% effective against bacteria and viruses, but does absolutely nothing against giardia cysts from wild animal waste. Ponds are notorious for having these cysts from the coons and other creatures that water from them. The consequences of a family member or friend being infected by giardia don't want to be contemplated, believe me.
 
A good bag filter system is capable of filtration levels down to 1 micron. Sand filters are not much slower, most vessels are capable of very good flow rates, just need a good pumping system either way you want to go.

You want this level of filtration because of possible (and likely) giardia cysts. See my above post.
 
Why should this fellow filter pond water? Shock chlorination is at best 99% effective against bacteria and viruses, but does absolutely nothing against giardia cysts from wild animal waste. Ponds are notorious for having these cysts from the coons and other creatures that water from them. The consequences of a family member or friend being infected by giardia don't want to be contemplated, believe me.

Sounds like a dealbreaker to me.
 
It ain't gonna work. It will cost him forever to undo the damage that he does if he fills it with pond water.

Hire a water truck. If he can't afford that, he'd better fill the pool with dirt and forget it.

This is the correct answer.:D
 
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