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First cartridges for Denon DP-62L?

Wolfie62 said:
So I’ve never fully understood Denon’s thinking in supplying 2 arms to start with.
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Denon provided two arms on the 57/62L to accommodate cartridges of various weights (including hardware).
  • The straight arm was intended to be used with carts weighing between 4gm-15gm (including screws). Using the small or medium tonearm weights
  • The S arm was intended for carts weighing between 11gm - 20gm (including the headshell and screws). Using the medium or large tonearm weights.
Depending on the cart there could be cases of arm choice overlap but staying within these parameters presumably would let the servo tracer properly do it's thing. Everything has it's limits.
 
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I got all that. I’ve run the GE VR22 (16 grams) tracking at 2.7 grams, to the ADC 10E MKIV tracking at 0.7 grams on the DP52F. Many lighter carts tracking 0.5-3.0 grams on it. Performed perfectly. So I’ve just never seen the need for 2 tonearms.
 
Wolfie62 said:
I got all that. I’ve run the GE VR22 (16 grams) tracking at 2.7 grams, to the ADC 10E MKIV tracking at 0.7 grams on the DP52F. Many lighter carts tracking 0.5-3.0 grams on it. Performed perfectly. So I’ve just never seen the need for 2 tonearms.
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In your personal example it makes perfect sense that you've never seen the need. I don't know about the arm on the 47F but on the 62L you'd only be running 1 gram over the recommended weight for the straight arm so it's probably not an issue.

Now if you had a much heavier cart combination, or maybe had a bunch of carts already installed on the more common standard type (and heavier) headshells, or even an SPU that you wanted to play on the Denon you might appreciate having the added flexibility that the extra arm provides.

The two arms provide for a wider range of playback options.
 
It’s NOT the arm configuration that’s important. It’s the Servo controls on the arm that make the differences here.

There are really only a few grams difference in mass on the 2 arms for the 62. The Dynamic Servo Tracer controls do the heavy lifting.

Very few arms can handle a 14 gram mass cartridge tracking at 0.7 grams. Likewise, few light mass arms can handle an 18 gram cartridge tracking at 2.7-3.0 grams VTF. Both the 45 and 52 do it in expert fashion. And just as expertly, handle a 5 gram cartridge tracking at 1.0 gram. I don’t know of many cartridges weighing more than an Empire 880P or VR22. To play them expertly, then turn around and play an ADC XLM, then play an ADC 10E MKIV, all on the same arm, is truly unusual. So I don’t see the need for 2 arms.

What would be an example of 2 carts making these 2 arms on the 62L absolutely necessary?

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Wolfie62 said:
It’s NOT the arm configuration that’s important. It’s the Servo controls on the arm that make the differences here.

There are really only a few grams difference in mass on the 2 arms for the 62. The Dynamic Servo Tracer controls do the heavy lifting.

Very few arms can handle a 14 gram mass cartridge tracking at 0.7 grams. Likewise, few light mass arms can handle an 18 gram cartridge tracking at 2.7-3.0 grams VTF. Both the 45 and 52 do it in expert fashion. And just as expertly, handle a 5 gram cartridge tracking at 1.0 gram. I don’t know of many cartridges weighing more than an Empire 880P or VR22. To play them expertly, then turn around and play an ADC XLM, then play an ADC 10E MKIV, all on the same arm, is truly unusual. So I don’t see the need for 2 arms.

What would be an example of 2 carts making these 2 arms on the 62L absolutely necessary?
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Please read what I wrote. It's not just about carts.

"...or maybe had a bunch of carts already installed on the more common standard type (and heavier) headshells, or even an SPU that you wanted to play on the Denon you might appreciate having the added flexibility that the extra arm provides.

The two arms provide for a wider range of playback options."

Standard headshells were always way more common than the ADC type headshells and many heavy vinyl users in the heyday usually had more than one standard headshell with various carts already mounted on them. Many of these headshells were selected by users for their construction material or features like easy screw-type azimuth adjust. Without the S shaped arm that Denon provided none of these would be able to be used on the straight Denon arm, neither would an SPU cartridge.

With both arms you can play anything you want or currently own with ease and convenience.

 
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