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Gate Fold LP's

The best way to see for yourself is to buy a new album on vinyl.
Nowadays they usually give you a download card, so you get the record and you get the digital version.
Compare and judge for yourself.:smoke:
 
The best way to see for yourself is to buy a new album on vinyl.
Nowadays they usually give you a download card, so you get the record and you get the digital version.
Compare and judge for yourself.:smoke:

what would i be judging? if it was recorded digitally, then wouldn't the vinyl be just another medium that the digital version was copied to, and be exactly like the digital version?
 
what would i be judging? if it was recorded digitally, then wouldn't the vinyl be just another medium that the digital version was copied to, and be exactly like the digital version?

i don't want to veer off onto another thread, but does vinyl do anything for new digital recordings?

I guess I don't understand what you mean about 'vinyl doing anything for new digital recordings'
 
i'm sure your right. i just assumed folks that look at covers while playing records were a dying breed. vinyl now has a hipster retro vibe going that may not last.

I think they ARE a dying breed, but they're still out there. So there are releases to cater to that.

I also can't get with the hipster fad idea. A young person enjoying a new release on vinyl with a gatefold cover today is the same as a youngster enjoying that brand new 60s/70s album with a gatefold cover, IMO. It's just somebody enjoying music the way they want to.
I don't care if a new Arcade Fire vinyl release is because of the hipsters or not, or that a new vinyl release of The Beatles is because of the oldsters or not. I'm just glad the choice is out there.
 
The first gatefolds were RCA 7" singles series in the early 50s. The first LP gatefold was, as has been stated, "Ella Fitzgerald Sings the Cole Porter Songbook" released by Verve in 1956.

For some reason a lot of people claim the Beatles had the first gatefold album but that isn't true.
 
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I think they ARE a dying breed, but they're still out there. So there are releases to cater to that.

A young person enjoying a new release on vinyl with a gatefold cover today is the same as a youngster enjoying that brand new 60s/70s album with a gatefold cover, IMO.

are you saying young people are enjoying albums today, in the same way/numbers they did in 60/70's?
 
I guess I don't understand what you mean about 'vinyl doing anything for new digital recordings'

actually I'm asking, never seen a good explanation to this here, i could have missed it. if a new original recording is made on digital equipment, not analog, then isn't pressing that onto vinyl going to be the same as the digital version? will the process of putting it on vinyl inprove the quality of sound?
 
are you saying young people are enjoying albums today, in the same way/numbers they did in 60/70's?

Nope. I'm saying that one person enjoying an album today is the same as one person enjoying an album in the 60s/70s.
LPs don't sell as much as they used to, but they still sell. And there are still people who enjoy holding that LP cover. I don't see much of a difference between somebody enjoying the artwork of an album that came out in 2014 and somebody doing the same thing years ago.
 
actually I'm asking, never seen a good explanation to this here, i could have missed it. if a new original recording is made on digital equipment, not analog, then isn't pressing that onto vinyl going to be the same as the digital version? will the process of putting it on vinyl inprove the quality of sound?

The simple answer is that the digital recording might be higher than CD quality. So if the vinyl version comes from that hi-rez recording, and is well mastered, it can sound better than the CD version. It could also be less compressed.
It depends on the release, but there are some where my vinyl version sounds better than the CD version.

I'm sure somebody could explain it better. It's one of those AK topics that gets some member riled up, though. And like Naptown mentioned, it's been beaten to death.
 
The simple answer is that the digital recording might be higher than CD quality. So if the vinyl version comes from that hi-rez recording, and is well mastered, it can sound better than the CD version. It could also be less compressed.
It depends on the release, but there are some where my vinyl version sounds better than the CD version.
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got it, so the vinyl version can never be better than the digital recording, right?
 
got it, so the vinyl version can never be better than the digital recording, right?

If we're talking about the original digital studio recording(as opposed to the issued music on CD, MP3, FLAC, etc.), then I'd say yes. If we're talking about the released digital version vs the vinyl version, then it's a case by case thing. How the two versions were mastered is a big part of it.

There are those also those who just prefer the sound of records, and will disagree with me. And there are those who think digital "anything" in a vinyl release makes it pointless.
It's a big topic that I think deserves more than just broad statements.
 
If we're talking about the original digital studio recording(as opposed to the issued music on CD, MP3, FLAC, etc.), then I'd say yes.

My precise point is only with the scenario above. I don't see any grey area or subjectivity here. Original digital studio recording on vinyl provides no increase in sound quality. Rather than the vinyl disc, I would rather have a thumb drive with the digital files inside the album jacket.
 
I'd like to see it, too. More options are always good. The various companies releasing music don't always feel the same way, sadly.

Another thing to consider is the equipment that it's being played on. Somebody with a high-end vinyl rig, a cheap CD player, and no way(or desire) to deal digital files would have a different take than somebody who had a high-end streaming setup and no(or a mediocre) vinyl rig.

Different strokes is how I look at it. And I'm format neutral enough that I don't see any of it right or wrong.
 
There are plenty of current/new release gatefolds.

I was about to same the same, not that I have anything within the last year or so, but my copies of Gogol Bordello and Toxic Holocaust are from 2003 and...2004ish I want to say? I'd say they're still very much in production.
 
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