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General ripping questions

ndes01njd

ndes01njd

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I'm getting all my old equipment and media set up for the first time in years and am looking for a bit of help and advise on ripping.

I'm looking to rip my vinyl and DVD / Blue-ray concerts. I have a Phillips cdr880 that I purchased new back in `99 and was wanting to use it to rip to a cdrw disk (which I don't have yet) and transfer those files to my craptop where I can burn lossless discs or compress to mp3.

First: I'm having a problem is finding a cdrw disc that works in the Phillips burner. Does anyone still make the old "music only" cdrw disc anymore? If you know your history on these units, you will remember they will not work with the "universal" type cdr or cdrw.

Second: I'm looking for a software recommendation to help clean up the audio of the vinyl and to help ad art work & song titles etc.. to the files

Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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+1 on the CD-R (music) rather than CD-RW. Wal Mart ( and likely others ) sells Memorex brand CD-R music discs. I have used them to burn from both my desktop and either CD or vinyl needle drops to CD-R music on a Teac CDR player I picked up a couple of years back.
Just google Music CD-R as they are readily available.

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cratz2 said:
It would be best to use CD-R rather CD-RW media.
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asterion said:
+1 on the CD-R (music) rather than CD-RW. Wal Mart ( and likely others ) sells Memorex brand CD-R music discs. I have used them to burn from both my desktop and either CD or vinyl needle drops to CD-R music on a Teac CDR player I picked up a couple of years back.
Just google Music CD-R as they are readily available.

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What is it about CDR that is any better than CDRW?

For the OP's purposes he can re-use that Music CDRW over and over.
If he's just going to transfer his rips to a computer, why not just use CDRW?
I've used this method for analog recordings for years, and it works like a charm. Saves wasting CDRs, too.
 
KrisM said:
What is it about CDR that is any better than CDRW?

For the OP's purposes he can re-use that Music CDRW over and over.
If he's just going to transfer his rips to a computer, why not just use CDRW?
I've used this method for analog recordings for years, and it works like a charm. Saves wasting CDRs, too.
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You may be right, however my CD recorder/player will only accept for recording the CDR's that are labeled as Music CD-R's.
The OP stated he was having trouble finding a CDRW that works in his machine. The CD-R labeled with the music symbol
may solve his issue,( I was having the same one) he should check his user manual for more info on what discs work in his machine.
These discs according to my player manual have had royalties paid somehow to someone.... not really sure if that is the actual case.

The majority of the discs I copy on the Teac CD recorder are for my family and friends that would like some selection(s) from my physical media collection. I have had the most luck with the Music CD-R's discs playing on the various equipment that is out there.

here is an article about the issue:
https://www.musicedmagic.com/music-technology/music-cd-r-vs-data-cd-r-is-there-a-difference.html

Here is a pic of a Music CD-R labeling.

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asterion said:
You may be right, however my CD recorder/player will only accept for recording the CDR's that are labeled as Music CD-R's.
The OP stated he was having trouble finding a CDRW that works in his machine. The CD-R labeled with the music symbol
may solve his issue,( I was having the same one) he should check his user manual for more info on what discs work in his machine.
These discs according to my player manual have had royalties paid somehow to someone.... not really sure if that is the actual case.

The majority of the discs I copy on the Teac CD recorder are for my family and friends that would like some selection(s) from my physical media collection. I have had the most luck with the Music CD-R's discs playing on the various equipment that is out there.

here is an article about the issue:
https://www.musicedmagic.com/music-technology/music-cd-r-vs-data-cd-r-is-there-a-difference.html

Here is a pic of a Music CD-R labeling.

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For sure.
But there are "Music" CDRWs out there. I've been using a few Fuji/Fujifilm music CDRWs on my recorder for years. As far back as 2003(?), I think.
If I had to use Music CDRs to transfer stuff off of my recorder to my computer and hard drives I'd have a mountain of those kicking around. The CDRW solution puts an end to that nonsense.
My thought is the trick for the OP is to actually find them. I guess amazon is the way to go, but I'll bet most sellers don't really know about the "Music" aspect of this topic.

Also for the OP, back to the original post. MP3Tag is a bit of pain to get used to at first IMO, but does a great job of fixing labels, tags, etc after your music is on a computer.:thumbsup:
 
I think just getting an external BluRay drive/burner and ripping directly to your laptop would be easier and you could forgo the writing to the disk part. But if your laptop has an optical drive, you could just use that to rip at least the CDs/DVDs, BluRays would need a dedicated drive unless your laptop has a BDR in it..
 
I am wondering why bother to rip to a cd of any sort as opposed directly to an external hard drive. What is the advantage to be had?
 
Other than the cost of the media (which if you buy it on sale is essentially free) I don't think there are as many advantages to using CD-RW as their are disadvantages.

Older drives have a lot more issues with CD-RWs than with CD-Rs and the OP's drive is almost 20 years old. If transferring something off vinyl - which is a relatively painstaking proposition - I'd hate to go through that process, say, with 20 albums only to discover it failed to do some process correctly, necessitating having to re-do the process again. $15 stack of plain old, no-frills music CD-Rs is what I would suggest for such a process.

I've converted an awful lot of LPs and copied CDs using standard music CD-Rs and have have very few troubles. I've also helped a lot of folks that had many troubles doing so while using CD-RWs.

Just my take. It's worth not quite $.02.
 
CKDC said:
I am wondering why bother to rip to a cd of any sort as opposed directly to an external hard drive. What is the advantage to be had?
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Some folks want to have the physical media. For backup porposes or to use in an actual CD or DVD drive.
 
cratz2 said:
Other than the cost of the media (which if you buy it on sale is essentially free) I don't think there are as many advantages to using CD-RW as their are disadvantages.

Older drives have a lot more issues with CD-RWs than with CD-Rs and the OP's drive is almost 20 years old. If transferring something off vinyl - which is a relatively painstaking proposition - I'd hate to go through that process, say, with 20 albums only to discover it failed to do some process correctly, necessitating having to re-do the process again. $15 stack of plain old, no-frills music CD-Rs is what I would suggest for such a process.

I've converted an awful lot of LPs and copied CDs using standard music CD-Rs and have have very few troubles. I've also helped a lot of folks that had many troubles doing so while using CD-RWs.

Just my take. It's worth not quite $.02.
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Cost is one part that I plead "ignorance" on.
I got my first recorder in 1999, but I pretty much gave up on using Music CDRs in 2003-ish. The only time I've used my recorder since then(for the most part) is to transfer analog recordings(mostly FM), using CDRW discs. When I got my first recorder, Music blanks were pricey here, like $7-$10cdn each, if I remember correctly.
By the time I stopped using them I know they went way down in price, though.
 
cratz2 said:
Some folks want to have the physical media. For backup porposes or to use in an actual CD or DVD drive.
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This is true.
If a stack of Music CDRs is only $15, the cost is a no brainer as a backup vs the time spent ripping vinyl.
 
I will give you that a cd player, generally speaking would easier in many ways than trying to integrate a computer into your system.

But I do not see any advantage to CDRW disks.
 
I used to use so many media that I pre-bought them. Often times I'd have 500 to 1,000 CD-Rs and a few hundred DVD+R/DVD-R on hand, just buying them as I saw good sales on known good media.

I remember when they were very pricey. I don't know that I ever saw them at $10 a piece but I had a 1x Plextor when it was the rage but living in a college town circa 1993-1995 and we had 'interesting' used CD shops in town and blank media was more expensive than used CDs so it made more sense to just keep the CD rather than copy it.
 
StimpyWan said:
Maybe these CD-RW blanks will work? They're Philips! Though, you don't necessarily have to use CD-RW blanks. Your CDR880 will burn to CD-R too.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...b-572a-579e-9b48-b186594cf93c&pf_rd_i=3690571

Exact Audio Copy for ripping.

http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

Audacity for editing.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/audacity/

Have fun...! :thumbsup:
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The reason for the CDRW is to re use the disk and make permanent copies after proofing and editing. (I don't want stacks of blemished copys)

Thanks for the links!
 
It seems like that is even more reason to record to a hard drive then to a cd. But, of course, whatever works best for you.
 
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