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Ghost? Who believes in them....

Ron, that story just sent chills up and down my spine.

I've seen (along with others I've been with) both day and night people dressed in white that can't be explained. When you go for the double take the "people" were gone. I would have to agree that there is something going on with the paranormal if you want to call them "ghosts" or whatever. There is something to it.
 
We were speaking of belief, beliefs and conditioning. All belief possibly could be said to be the result of some conditioning. Thus, the study of history is simply the study of one system of beliefs deposing another. And so on, and so on, and so on. A psychologically tested belief of our time is the central nervous system, which feeds its impulses directly to the brain, the conscious and subconscious, is unable to discern between the real and the vividly imagined experience, if there is a difference, and most of us believe there is. Am I being clear? For to examine these concepts requires tremendous energy and discipline. To experience the now without preconception of belief To allow the unknown to occur and to occur requires clarity. For where there is clarity there is no choice, and where there is choice, there is misery. But then why should anyone listen to me? Why should I speak? Since I know nothing!
 
I had quite a few experiences myself. I always had a fascination with the supernatural. I think for the most part in runs in families and certain nationalities experience more then others. Whenever it's something to do with our subconscious or something else remains a mystery.
 
Sandy G said:
This may or may not be a ghost, but it was MOST unnerving. About 5-6 years ago, maybe a little later in the year, say October, I took my sister to the store on Sat. afternoon, to get some stuff for supper. It was GLORIOUS weather, 70-75, I sat in the Mighty Valdez listenin' to the radio while she went in, drinkin' in the wonderful Fall day...I closed my eyes, but wasn't asleep...And then He showed up...A kid, tall & gangly, was RIGHT THERE, ALL AT ONCE in the driver's side window of my truck..."Please, Sir, Will you let me in, & take me to see my Mother ? Please, Sir, Let me in your Vehicle"...There was something VERY strange about this kid...And the day had gotten quite dark, like a storm was comin', but there were no clouds in the sky...And then I noticed it...HIS EYES WERE BLACK...Not just the pupils, THE WHOLE EYE, even the parts that were sposed to be white...I am normally NOT scared of much anything, but THIS freaked me out-I knew if I let this kid in my truck, that would be the end of me. I saw my sister coming out of the store, & told him-mumbling something about, sorry, but there was my sister, & did a "Casey Jones" around the parking lot...My sister got in & wanted to know why I did my Mario Andretti imitation around the parking lot...Of course, there was no kid to be seen, & I just kinda clammed up about it. That STILL freaks me out. The whole thing couldn't have been more than a half a minute, but it felt like FOREVER...And another thing, now that I think of it, HIS FACE was MOVING, kinda like it was liquid or something...Bizarre. And no, I DID NOT have anything to drink or smoke-altho I sure wished I had after that little encounter.
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You had an experience with the "Black Eyed Kids"! There are stories like that all over the country. Google it and you will find out.
 
doucanoe said:
I do believe. In something anyway.

It's strange to read this because I was just recanting my only ghost story to my kids this evening...

When I was around 16, a friend and myself headed out on a Friday evening to his family's lake place outside of Alexandria MN. We arrived mid evening, made some grub and tried to chat up the girls next door for a bit before turning in around midnight.

The next morning we packed a lunch and decided to do a little exploring on the dirt bikes. We headed out on a criss crossed maze of mile marked dirt roads traveling through wooded areas and farm fields alike. Around noon we decided to stop and eat. From where we were stopped on the road, we could see an old abandoned farm house about 1/4 mile off on the horizon. It looked pretty cool so we figured that we would go check it out and eat there at the same time.

There was no drive as such but we followed a tractor path that seemed to be heading in its general direction. The path veered away about 100 or so yards from the old house so we just busted out own trail through the long grass to get there.

The house was literally in the middle of this field in the middle of nowhere. Most of the windows had long been broken out, hardly anything in the way of paint left on it and its roof and front porch was collapsing from dry rot and the elements.

We went inside and saw that the condition was about the same. Somehow we made it up to the second floor without killing ourselves and weeded through some wood crates strewn about that contained nothing of interest then back down again.

While we were back outside sitting in the grass and having a smoke, we noticed an angular access on the side of the house that lead to the storm cellar we figured. The board door was intact and had a latch on it but no lock so we figured to have a look. We must have wrenched on that door for 5 minutes before it finally flung open only to reveal what appeared to be a white haired guy standing about 1/2 way down the stairway staring back up at us :yikes:

We beat feet out of there fast, jumped on the bikes and made our way back to the road. I think we were both to scared to say anything on the way to the road but when we got there and finally stopped in was 10 minutes of :Holy ****! did you see that?" and "I saw a white haired guy staring back up at us!!! Did you see that???!!!"

After we composed ourselves and came to the conclusion that it must have been out imaginations we figured to heck with the sandwiches and headed off to the cafe in a small town a couple of miles from there.

We sat alone in that little three table cafe all freaked out and still rambling on about what we had just witnessed. The old gal working the counter must overheard our conversation and asked what we had been up to. We told her the whole story (most of it anyway) and where the old abandoned farm house was at.

She was smiling until we explained where the place was. At that point the smile left her face and she told us we best stay away from that place and that things weren't "right" there. :jawdrop:


I don't know what it was that we saw but to this day just thinking about it sends shivers up and down my spine. That was a long time ago and I remember it like it was yesterday.

RC
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Do you know if the place is still there?
 
I won't say they don't exist. I used to get the creeps when I was a kid when I went to certain places. Then Grandma put some sense into my head, and I figured they couldn't touch me.

Only thing I ever noticed was a rush of air past my head the night my grandpa's sister died (250 miles away). Windows were shut, and the heat/ac was off, so I didn't know what it was. That was the only thing I could think of.

I feel comfortable in places that give people the heebie-jeebies. Exploring old farm houses is rather intriguing to me. What I've found to be depressing about them is the fact that they've been added onto umpteen times, which makes them look strange, and also affects the amount of light that can get into them. This explains the maze of rooms and doors. All ya gotta do is tear the place down and replace it with something that makes sense.
 
doucanoe said:
We sat alone in that little three table cafe all freaked out and still rambling on about what we had just witnessed. The old gal working the counter must overheard our conversation and asked what we had been up to. We told her the whole story (most of it anyway) and where the old abandoned farm house was at.

She was smiling until we explained where the place was. At that point the smile left her face and she told us we best stay away from that place and that things weren't "right" there. :jawdrop:
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You're freaking me out! :para: Now I'm all jittery, been listening to Black Sabbath all night, and now I have to try to sleep! Have you ever returned?

I'm all sorts of interested in this supernatural sort of thing. Dreams and ghosts and all. There's gotta be something out there, or maybe I just have a freaky sixth sense. Don't like sneakin' around in abandoned places and hearing things that just aren't right. There were all sorts of ghost experiences flyin' around at basic training, I know that much.

I know I'm gonna have some gawd awful nightmare or some crap cause of you guys now! :yikes:
 
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I guess I'm not *sensitive* when it comes to seeing or hearing spirits, but know folks who have. Two of my co-workers swore up and down that they repeatedly saw something at the jewelry store's old location downtown. They'd point and exclaim "don't you see it???" "Sorry...nope." :dunno: Plenty of spook stories all over town though and from people who aren't the types to make things up.
On two occasions I did observe objects moving, one at my HS english teacher's house, which was a rocking chair in motion.
(She told us it happened all the time.)

The other were friends of mine who were newlyweds. They rented an old victorian that was empty and sat in an isolated location.
Linda swore up and down that she had objects thrown at her and she and her husband heard odd noises in the basement and upstairs. Anyway, one of her complaints was the light at the top of the stairs couldn't be turned off by either of its two switches. She called me over to see if it was an electrical fault that could be fixed. I thought "easy, new switches". Wrong. No matter which switch you used to try to turn off the light, the other would *click!* it's self back on at the other end of the stairs! You could see with your own eyes the opposite switch move to turn the fixture back on! No electrical fault would cause that! I went down into the basement and removed the Edison fuses to turn the circuit off and checked the wiring and both switches and although very old, they were in perfect working order.
Now, other than the light switch, I never witnessed anything, but Linda and her hubby didn't stay there for very long.
 
thats pretty cool experience you had Doucanoe.. but dont you wish now that you didnt run and you just stood there for alittle longer just to be sure what you were seeing??
i mean maybe sombody was useing it as a methlab or something.. maybe he was growing weed down there lol.. maybe he heard you guys trying to open it up and (if he was doing something illegal) had no choice but to go through you guys to get out of there.
if i was in your situation i would of have probably ran too.. although later regretted not finding out for sure.
 
Stereoholic said:
Only thing I ever noticed was a rush of air past my head the night my grandpa's sister died (250 miles away). Windows were shut, and the heat/ac was off, so I didn't know what it was. That was the only thing I could think of.
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I had a similar experience but most likely it was me. Was getting into bed then felt a rush. Windows was closed. I looked around and said, "What the..?" then I put my head down and fell asleep.

I'm kinda the doubting Thomas here I guess. Until someone comes up with irrefutable evidence then i'm gonna continue to be skeptical. I believe when someone is afraid, they are more like to experience 'supernatural' experiences. Not that they are more 'sensitive' but more aware of their surroundings.

Then again, I don't believe in the laws of physics and I have a physics degree. Quantum theory is just a theory. We can describe very accurately what motion & energy of particles but it is still a theory. Space was filled with ether til the 1940's. The sun rotated around the earth for thousands of years. There are still ALOT of things unexplained. Could ghosts be some form of lingering energy? I couldn't even begin to understand it. Trying to understand the 'supernatural' to formulate theories would require a mind that would be very 'different'. If anyone succeded, it would probably alter our understanding of energy... *digress* *digress* *digress*

<pokes head out of alien spaceship to smell the swamp gases>
 
here is a few questionable pics I taken over the years...only thing that was done is they were lightened up. I have the originals if requested...and no noone was smoking.

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long exposure on this one....something walked across the screen...

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I have multiple voice recordings also that have interesting stuff on them.

The scariest thing that has happened to me is we were staying at the Menger Hotel in San Antonio. Were were staying in one of the old rooms, and in the middle of the night we were woke up because we were freezing, and our covers were thrown against the wall. As we turned a lamp on, me, the wife, and another couple saw a man just walk through a wall. Of course now we are wide awake. We went down to the front desk to ask the clerk on duty what the hell was going on, and she said oh you are staying in room ***....oh that happens all the time. There used to be a door there before a remodel about 1900, and she handed us a HUGE book of guest accounts dating back 100 something years. Sure enough, there was entries stating the EXACT same thing we saw in that same room, going back over 60 years.

check it out...

http://mengerhotel.com/page/ntmi/Ghost_Sightings.html
 
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