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Grado Opus3 review

I grabbed a low and a high Opus 3 and I expected to send them off immediately for retipping and they sound so good right out of the box that I won’t have a problem wearing down the original stone first. They are very different. I also have a Blue 3. I really like the 3 series, but the Opus, whatever Grado did, is a full step above the Prestige. It’s seriously up there with the previous Grado woodies up to $1,000 and it completely changed my expectations of what can be done with a bonded diamond or how a bonded diamond is “supposed” to sound. It’s voodoo.
I found the Statement reference more muted less alive than the Opus 3, it is like a totally different cart. The retip ones have a far better top end the slightly clangy nature of the treble is gone after retip and more fine detail. You are right though right out the box they are very good indeed.
Chris
 
I found the Statement reference more muted less alive than the Opus 3, it is like a totally different cart. The retip ones have a far better top end the slightly clangy nature of the treble is gone after retip and more fine detail. You are right though right out the box they are very good indeed.
Chris
Joseph told me he picked one up used on the cheap off ebay with the intention of retipping it with something better. He said he was so impressed that he left it stock.
 
I was curious about these when Schiit was offering them with their misbegotten and now defunct Sol TT. I have a Blue I don't love much and a walnut wood body I made for a Shure M44 that didn't quite work out, and now I'm wondering if I can pair the Blue with the wood body.

Has anybody figured out what is special (or different) about the Opus3 construction over the regular Grados, apart from the obvious wood body?
 
Joseph told me he picked one up used on the cheap off ebay with the intention of retipping it with something better. He said he was so impressed that he left it stock.
They are stunning, retipped they are worthwhile better again, but he is right they are very very good stock, lovely actually.
Chris
 
I was curious about these when Schiit was offering them with their misbegotten and now defunct Sol TT. I have a Blue I don't love much and a walnut wood body I made for a Shure M44 that didn't quite work out, and now I'm wondering if I can pair the Blue with the wood body.

Has anybody figured out what is special (or different) about the Opus3 construction over the regular Grados, apart from the obvious wood body?
I have only worked with the low output Opus so far and the Prestige are all high output so that alone could be the magic.
Chris
 
I didn’t find much difference worth noting in my system except the need to amplify the signal on the low output version. I’d recommend the high version without hesitation. For other Grado woodies going way back, I observed more transparency with the low output versions but the Opus high or low is the most transparent bonded elliptical stylus bearing cartridge I’ve ever heard. It sounds like a nude. It sounds a lot to me like an old Statement Sonata with the 5 piece OTL and extremely low mass nude elliptical.
What is the coil resistance on the high output?
I did a direct side by side with my statement reference and the reference was polite and restrained, popping on the Opus and right away the music came to life so my feeling is the Opus is way better than old woodies. For what it is worth the 5 piece cantilevers are not 5 they are 4 and the 4 are not 4 they are three. I cant find the 4th part and had these cantilevers apart. Parts are, cup solid rod in cup and cantilever slid over the rod. With so called 5 piece there is a small short tube slid onto the rod and a boron cantilever slid into the tube which makes 4 pieces. Love to know what Grado are calling the 5th piece and the 4th piece in high end prestige.
Chris
 
What is the coil resistance on the high output?
I did a direct side by side with my statement reference and the reference was polite and restrained, popping on the Opus and right away the music came to life so my feeling is the Opus is way better than old woodies. For what it is worth the 5 piece cantilevers are not 5 they are 4 and the 4 are not 4 they are three. I cant find the 4th part and had these cantilevers apart. Parts are, cup solid rod in cup and cantilever slid over the rod. With so called 5 piece there is a small short tube slid onto the rod and a boron cantilever slid into the tube which makes 4 pieces. Love to know what Grado are calling the 5th piece and the 4th piece in high end prestige.
Chris
I'm guessing the bonded tip and the glue... :rflmao:
 
I didn’t find much difference worth noting in my system except the need to amplify the signal on the low output version. I’d recommend the high version without hesitation. For other Grado woodies going way back, I observed more transparency with the low output versions but the Opus high or low is the most transparent bonded elliptical stylus bearing cartridge I’ve ever heard. It sounds like a nude. It sounds a lot to me like an old Statement Sonata with the 5 piece OTL and extremely low mass nude elliptical.

I posed the question to Joseph seeking his opinion on whether he would advise getting one over the other. He replied back that he owns one of each, both with 50 hours use, and said, "The audiophile in me wants to say the low, but the truly honest person I am says the high." He then went on to say that, if I like, he'll send me both to audition in my home, decide on which one I would choose, then I can send them back. I love that guy!
Anyway, I'm going to try to set it up as a blind listening test to eliminate any preconceived notions. Gotta figure out how to trick myself into not knowing somehow since the volume will be quite different from one to the other. Maybe I'll have the Mrs. turn the volume up from 0 on the amp without me looking at how high it is on the dial... I'll set the phono stage for low output gain for the entire test.
I shall report back with my findings.
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I posed the question to Joseph seeking his opinion on whether he would advise getting one over the other. He replied back that he owns one of each, both with 50 hours use, and said, "The audiophile in me wants to say the low, but the truly honest person I am says the high." He then went on to say that, if I like, he'll send me both to audition in my home, decide on which one I would choose, then I can send them back. I love that guy!
Anyway, I'm going to try to set it up as a blind listening test to eliminate any preconceived notions. Gotta figure out how to trick myself into not knowing somehow since the volume will be quite different from one to the other. Maybe I'll have the Mrs. turn the volume up from 0 on the amp without me looking at how high it is on the dial... I'll set the phono stage for low output gain for the entire test.
I shall report back with my findings.
:trebon:
I cant help wondering is he is using the wrong loading on the low output as not all preamps can do 47k on MC. In this case the high would be better for sure.
Ask him what the DC resistance is on the high.
Chris
 
I cant help wondering is he is using the wrong loading on the low output as not all preamps can do 47k on MC. In this case the high would be better for sure.
Ask him what the DC resistance is on the high.
Chris
I assume he knows what he's doing with the loading. I remember the Grado website (4ourears) saying 10k-47k loading. I find that 20k-22k for low output Grados sounds best to my old, somewhat damaged ears. I can also vary gain and loading independently on my phono stage, not a one size fits all MM and MC type arrangement.
The coil resistance is 660ohms for the high and 70ohms for the low per Grado specs. Is that what you mean when you said DC resistance? You could email him directly, he loves talking cartridges.
 
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I assume he knows what he's doing with the loading. I remember the Grado website (4ourears) saying 10k-47k loading. I find that 20k-22k for low output Grados sounds best to my old, somewhat damaged ears. I can also vary gain and loading independently on my phono stage, not a one size fits all MM and MC type arrangement.
The coil resistance is 660ohms for the high and 70ohms for the low per Grado specs. Is that what you mean when you said DC resistance? You could email him directly, he loves talking cartridges.
Yes that is dc resistance, checking as often with Grado what is on the white piece of paper spec sheets is not even close to what it actually is.
I will measure my low output and see what mine is.
Chris
 
Grado Prestige 2 varied a lot, I have a gold which is 700 ohms and another gold 2 which is 680 ohms, a blue which was 680 and an old Grado which is 700 and a Platinum 1 which is 480 ohms. The 680 ones have the best treble so 660 seems to be a good place for coil resistance.
Chris
 
Reminds me of the $ensible $ound review of the Stanton 981-HZS, which they loved. At the end of the review, they added that the low output version was available. They didn’t see the point after listening to it and quipped something like, “for those who insist on the inconvenience and unnecessary expense of moving coil cartridges, there is also the low output cartridge and head amp available.”
Grado is so low inductance it mostly does nor matter but it does, can you hear it? Probably not but the low output will be slightly better question is is the low output ideal for what you are testing it on? The no brainer is go high as it is so low anyway, that said my low even works on normal MM just better on MC as output is quite higher anyway and it is stunning so part of me is thinking why experiment when this works.
Chris
 
Grado Prestige 2 varied a lot, I have a gold which is 700 ohms and another gold 2 which is 680 ohms, a blue which was 680 and an old Grado which is 700 and a Platinum 1 which is 480 ohms. The 680 ones have the best treble so 660 seems to be a good place for coil resistance.
Chris
Grado definitely took a step in the wrong direction when they lowered the resistance in their high output cartridges to the 450-500 ohms range. Raising it back up for the Prestige2 and Prestige3 series is why they sound much better now IMO.
 
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