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Grado Statement/Reference for 919 Sansui

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ghamilton said:
I just want to brag on the sound of my Grado Statement/Reference .5 mv Low output pickup feeding the MC input of my Sansui AU-919. It took some doing to get the input resistance correct. The Grado needs a 47Kohm input. I had to change some resistors to get it right. Here's the story:...
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=383840
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So, you got the Grado sounding like it's supposed to? I know in past threads, you were a little non-plused with it comparing a properly loaded 97xE. Should be quite a diference in carts, in every category you can think of. My "lowly" Reference Sonata-1 does quite well.
 
Thanks marcmorin. It is better than my SAS/Shure combo. It should be though. I first had the Reference/Sonata high output. It had a problem tracking some of my older LP's. You would think a $500 Grado wouldn't have that problem. Anyway, I sent it back to Grado to have them check it out. The old man John Chapis (I think thats how you spell his last name) left it in the head-phone department and forgot about it. After a few weeks I called him and they felt so bad about it (and the tracking problem) that they sent me the $1200 reference. They ask me if I wanted the high or low output. Because I had a MC section in my 919 I decided to try the low output called the Statement/Reference. I didn't know about the 47K thing for the low output version. As you read, I got it solved.
Now I'm wondering if there is much difference between mine and the newest version with the #1 added to the end.
 
ghamilton said:
Thanks marcmorin. It is better than my SAS/Shure combo. It should be though. I first had the Reference/Sonata high output. It had a problem tracking some of my older LP's. You would think a $500 Grado wouldn't have that problem. Anyway, I sent it back to Grado to have them check it out. The old man John Chapis (I think thats how you spell his last name) left it in the head-phone department and forgot about it. After a few weeks I called him and they felt so bad about it (and the tracking problem) that they sent me the $1200 reference. They ask me if I wanted the high or low output. Because I had a MC section in my 919 I decided to try the low output called the Statement/Reference. I didn't know about the 47K thing for the low output version. As you read, I got it solved.
Now I'm wondering if there is much difference between mine and the newest version with the #1 added to the end.
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I can't answer for the Reference and the +1 version of it. I owned an original Sonata, it huffed a diamond after three years (way out of warrantee) I sent it back to have them check as "why" and to have it retipped. They sent me a new +1 version and told me they had no idea why the diamond shattered. As in your case. FOC :thmbsp: Anyway, there is a big jump from the original to the +1 version. It's the only Grado I own that has both the "older" voicing/sound stage, and the "newer" voicing/soundstage.
 
I don't know maybe I am missing something, but I thought with the RIAA equalization that a 47K resistance was pretty much the standard.

I have been wondering how those Grado wood body reference cartridges sound and have not seen a lot of talk regarding them. I certainly would think they should sound much better than a lower budget Shure.
 
Ken Boyd said:
I don't know maybe I am missing something, but I thought with the RIAA equalization that a 47K resistance was pretty much the standard.

I have been wondering how those Grado wood body reference cartridges sound and have not seen a lot of talk regarding them. I certainly would think they should sound much better than a lower budget Shure.
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The standard for a MC stage is not 47K. Thats what makes the low-output Grado's different. They are made for a MC input but must be at 47Kohms. You must make sure your MC stage can be adjusted to 47K.:nono: If not,... go with the high output version which can be ran into a standard MM stage.
 
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