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Hana EH/EL vs the Sumiko Blue Point Special EVO III and EVO high vs low

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martinb0820

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I’m looking for opinions about the Hana EH/EL vs the Sumiko Blue Point Special EVO III, as well as impressions of the high vs low output versions of the EVO III.

There have been many opinions on-line where the BPS has been found to be shrill and forward but it seems like (but maybe not) these were based on running it into 47K. I had an original high output BPS (non-EVO) that hasn’t been used for quite a while (it wore out) and found that it sounded much better at less than 47K (37K? 33K? I forget).

Also, there has been quite a bit of Hana EH vs EL discussion on-line but I have been able to find almost nothing about the high vs. low output BPS EVO III.

Tone arm is a Sumiko MMT. The effective mass can be varied to some extent by using either a HS-12 (12g) headshell and standard counterweight or a Technics SL1200GAE (7.6g) headshell in conjunction with the counterweight from an FT-3. (The lateral resonance of the BPS + HS-12 was 10 Hz.; I didn't use damping.)
 
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martinb0820 said:
I’m looking for opinions about the Hana EH/EL vs the Sumiko Blue Point Special EVO III, as well as impressions of the high vs low output versions of the EVO III.

There have been many opinions on-line where the BPS has been found to be shrill and forward but it seems like (but maybe not) these were based on running it into 47K. I had an original high output BPS (non-EVO) that hasn’t been used for quite a while (it wore out) and found that it sounded much better at less than 47K (37K? 33K? I forget).

Also, there has been quite a bit of Hana EH vs EL discussion on-line but I have been able to find almost nothing about the high vs. low output BPS EVO III.

Tone arm is a Sumiko MMT. The effective mass can be varied to some extent by using either a HS-12 (12g) headshell and standard counterweight or a Technics SL1200GAE (7.6g) headshell in conjunction with the counterweight from an FT-3. (The lateral resonance of the BPS + HS-12 was 10 Hz.; I didn't use damping.)
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Good question as I too would like to know the differences between the HO and LO of the EVO III.

For what its worth, I have a EVO III on my SOTA Sapphire with an MMT arm , I use a Yamamoto Cherry wood head shell and think it sounds great!!

I also say it sound just as good on my AR XA with the same head shell.

I have no experience with a HANA .

Nashou
 
I am not a reviewer, as flowery prose ain't my thing. Other than the need for more gain, there really shouldn't be much of a difference in sound between hi and low output versions of a particular cartridge. If there was a large difference in overall sound, it would probably warrant a name change from the factory. In my opinion. It's also possible that more than a small percentage of owners don't own ancillary equipment good enough to be able to discern any real difference. But unless you actually do the comparison yourself, you will never really know if YOU can hear a difference, with your gear, in your room. Just sayin'.....
 
I have an Evo 3 special that was re-tipped by Joseph, and I have to it’s not shreaky or shrill it’s smooth and detailed, lovely sound I have say. Here is the finished product and I love the look..
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L-82 said:
I have an Evo 3 special that was re-tipped by Joseph, and I have to it’s not shreaky or shrill it’s smooth and detailed, lovely sound I have say. Here is the finished product and I love the look..
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For the retip, what kind of cantilever (aluminum, boron, etc?) and diamond (elliptical, Shibata, etc?) Do you run it at "standard" loading?
 
I'm curious on the differences and opinions as well as these are carts I am thinking of getting one or the other.

I bought a B&O MMC3 from Joseph and it is amazing. Talking to him now about re-tiping my Grado Red.
Is he on AK here as I am chatting to him through eBay?
 
With the prices of most things vinyl related going up, up, up, I don't know, but I don't think I'll buy another elliptical-stylus cartridge. Conical or some sort of fine-line/Shibata/Microline, etc., instead, for me. Just a thought.
 
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