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Harman Kardon 230A FM Board Curiosities

Nice report.
Of all the capacitors you replaced were you able to test them and were there a lot out of spec?? How many actually looked bad??
Did you replace any transistors? Happy for you it came out good. I was a bit concerned with what all you were doing.

Thanks! It was in bad shape when I got it - iirc (this was years ago), after an initial pot cleaning, one channel out, the other sounded horrible. I pulled all transistors, tested, and re-installed. I didn't bother testing the electrolytic capacitors that came out. None looked bad in terms of bulging or leaking. But both channels are alive and well and sounding fantastic now with the new caps. For sake of scientific method it would have been interesting to test them. I did test all of the ceramic caps and resistors that went back in, and they all tested within spec.

A new tool I have been considering is a real capacitor tester ... my multimeter can only test capacitance up to something like 20uF.

Concerned? I wasn't worried for a second! :bs::rflmao:
 
A new tool I have been considering is a real capacitor tester ... my multimeter can only test capacitance up to something like 20uF

That's about what I was thinking when I really got going with vintage audio gear repair. Here is what I observed:

For vintage tube gear where you have high voltage (e.g. 125-800 VDC) needs or oddball capacitance values (e.g. 5 uF), there are times when you may want to keep the original cap unless it is already bad. A cap tester that 1) includes leakage testing (which must be done AT the rated voltage) and 2) has a high test voltage range (e.g. 3VDC to 400 VDC) is the only practical device to do this. That means a VINTAGE cap tester like the crazy-expensive-now Heathkit IT-11. I've bought, restored and used these... only to realize I don't LIKE relying on 60 year old caps. I now automatically buy replacement caps for all electrolytic and tantalum caps and often buy film and ceramic replacements. Yep, that's the shotgunning approach. My time is valuable, I don't want to go in a second time, and the time it takes to test each cap is better spent (for me) outright replacing them.

For modern, post-tube era cap checking, you could certainly get a nice tester like Sencore's LC line. Very accurate, great gear, and very expensive even used. That will tell you 1) if the cap is working properly and 2) what capacitance and ESR value it currently has. Good to know if you are choosing which caps to replace and which caps to keep. This device supports the non-shotgunning or "replace only when failed" approach. Perfectly valid, just takes time.

The $20 cheap component testers off eBay and Amazon and banggood really work. They accurately tell you capacitance above 200 pF and below 10,000 uF, if I remeber correctly. They also tell you ESR, I think. And they do five other critical measurements for repair, restore, and recap. These are invaluable, mostly accurate, cheap tools. I have three just because they are so cheap.

Peak Atlas also offers ESR and capacitance meters. Not TOO expensive, but still five times the cost of a cheaper, more versatile $20 cheap component tester. I have the Peak Atlas DCA75 pro something or other to get precise answers about diodes and transistors. It does curve tracing very nicely. Their gear is small, well documented and modern. But I'd buy a $20 cheap component tester long before spending the extra on a Peak Atlas device.

So, long winded blah blah blah. But some observations and opinion for you to consider as you like.
 
I don't LIKE relying on 60 year old caps. I now automatically buy replacement caps for all electrolytic and tantalum caps and often buy film and ceramic replacements.

... Sencore's LC line. Very accurate, great gear, and very expensive ...

The $20 cheap component testers off eBay and Amazon and banggood really work. They accurately tell you capacitance above 200 pF and below 10,000 uF, if I remeber correctly. They also tell you ESR, I think. And they do five other critical measurements for repair, restore, and recap. These are invaluable, mostly accurate, cheap tools. I have three just because they are so cheap.

... I'd buy a $20 cheap component tester long before spending the extra on a Peak Atlas device.

Thanks! I cut down the quote to highlight my thoughts. I would certainly be interested in one of the $20 pieces so long as it's (a) accurate, (b) has a usable, practical range to measure most caps in solid state gear, and (c) tells me ESR. Any recommendation from among those you own?
 
Thanks! I cut down the quote to highlight my thoughts. I would certainly be interested in one of the $20 pieces so long as it's (a) accurate, (b) has a usable, practical range to measure most caps in solid state gear, and (c) tells me ESR. Any recommendation from among those you own?

The definitive thread on these is here: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/cheap-component-tester.749729/

The first ones I bought were bare board, no case. Those were cheap, but they were not convenient. I upgraded to ones with 1) nice plastic case, 2) built in rechargeable battery via USB port, 3) color display, 4) DIP style ZIP socket with a release lever that made it easy to plug and unplug the 5) included three minigrabber wires (instead of trying to fit the component-under-test leads into the tester's pin holes.

This is a slightly nicer version of what I settled on, but all these work the same. Just pick the extra features you want Transistor Tester Mega328 NPN/PNP Transistor Diode Resistor Inductor Capacitance MOS SCR ESR Meter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS1FOYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GOMJCbZCDHANQ
 
The definitive thread on these is here: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/cheap-component-tester.749729/

The first ones I bought were bare board, no case. Those were cheap, but they were not convenient. I upgraded to ones with 1) nice plastic case, 2) built in rechargeable battery via USB port, 3) color display, 4) DIP style ZIP socket with a release lever that made it easy to plug and unplug the 5) included three minigrabber wires (instead of trying to fit the component-under-test leads into the tester's pin holes.

This is a slightly nicer version of what I settled on, but all these work the same. Just pick the extra features you want Transistor Tester Mega328 NPN/PNP Transistor Diode Resistor Inductor Capacitance MOS SCR ESR Meter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MS1FOYM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GOMJCbZCDHANQ

Excellent, thanks! Ordered. Will parse through Avionic's thread when I get it!
 
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