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Help identifying Dynatron speakers (British)

philco123

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First timer here (but a regular reader).

Could anyone help identify these large British Dynatron speakers? They belong to friends of friends and they want to get rid of them. I don't live anywhere near them, so can't go and check them out for a while.

I've done a Google search and not brought up anything. The badge/logo is unusual for Dynatron, for one, as is the silver rim. They're large - as you might be able to judge from the amps/CD player in the background. About a metre high or more, I'd guess.

Any clues would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Expect to find Peerless drivers in there, I don't know the model of those but being in the UK iv had a few different model Dynatron pairs. All off them were Peerless loaded :-)
 
I was presuming so. I'm sure they're decent speakers, if not magnificent. Pretty sure I'll pick them up and possibly replace my bookshelf Dynaco A10s, which lack bass, with them.
 
I seem to remember some Dynatron speaker being presented as essentially the european version of the Dynaco A 25. That one looks much larger than the A 25 or A 35, and clearly is dramatically differently proportioned than the the A 50.
 
Mystery solved - they're Dynatron LS 300 speakers with Goodmans drivers. Almost nothing about them online, but here are some pics (of a different pair).

http://www.gzhifi.com/ay/goods.php?id=313

If anyone knows whether they're decent speakers, I'd still be keen to know. Also, impedance. I have an 8 ohm Marantz 2238BL receiver.

Finally, any opinions on the AR-3a/improved? Same person also has a pair up for grabs (but I know they are 4 ohms, so not much use to me - I might sell them for the owner)

Many thanks.
 
I seem to remember some Dynatron speaker being presented as essentially the european version of the Dynaco A 25. That one looks much larger than the A 25 or A 35, and clearly is dramatically differently proportioned than the the A 50.
See above, Nat!
 
No reason you can't use AR 3as with your Marantz -- power ratings are usually given based on an 8 ohm load, but as long as the impedance isn't too low (and if you are using only one pair at a time rather than paralleling two pairs) 4 ohms shouldn't be a problem. Some low end multichannel AV recievers might have a problem, but not a good quality stereo reciever. Speakers are given nominal impedance ratings, but their actual impedance varies with frequency, so the listed rating is more of a general interpretation of the impedance relative to frequency than it is a hard and fast number that has to be matched. With tube amps there can be a real benefit to using the correct tap off the transformer, but with solid state amps without output transformers its less important, as long as the speaker doesn't present too punishing a load. But the AR 3a has been used successfully with many, many solid state amps and recievers.
I can't pull up the linked site right now, but earlier it looked like the bass driver was the same Goodmans used in an oddball B&O sold in England -- the tax on imported large woofers was high in the UK at the time, so B&O designed a variant that could take a british driver, and (I think) a bigger one at that. It was more bass heavy than the usual B&O speaker -- in that sense no bad thing, but it seems to muddy the sound also.
 
No reason you can't use AR 3as with your Marantz -- power ratings are usually given based on an 8 ohm load, but as long as the impedance isn't too low (and if you are using only one pair at a time rather than paralleling two pairs) 4 ohms shouldn't be a problem. Some low end multichannel AV recievers might have a problem, but not a good quality stereo reciever. Speakers are given nominal impedance ratings, but their actual impedance varies with frequency, so the listed rating is more of a general interpretation of the impedance relative to frequency than it is a hard and fast number that has to be matched. With tube amps there can be a real benefit to using the correct tap off the transformer, but with solid state amps without output transformers its less important, as long as the speaker doesn't present too punishing a load. But the AR 3a has been used successfully with many, many solid state amps and recievers.
I can't pull up the linked site right now, but earlier it looked like the bass driver was the same Goodmans used in an oddball B&O sold in England -- the tax on imported large woofers was high in the UK at the time, so B&O designed a variant that could take a british driver, and (I think) a bigger one at that. It was more bass heavy than the usual B&O speaker -- in that sense no bad thing, but it seems to muddy the sound also.

Thanks a million for this, Nat - really, really helpful. As you can no doubt tell, I'm new to all this and am still building up a first (vintage) system. Got the Marantz in place, along with a lovely Thorens TD-150 II, but the Dynaco A10s I have, while decent, don't have enough well for me. I'll pick up the AR-3as (they're free) and give them a go. May as well try the Dynatrons too. If I don't like either, it may be that a woofer with the Dynacos will suit me.

I can see how all this gets very addictive!
 
Free AR 3as are a great find -- in their time they were arguably among the best speakers on the market, and even now they are widely liked and sell for significant amounts of money. One possible issue is the potentiometers, which very commonly (or even universally) develop dead spots or go dead completely. They can be cleaned sometimes, or replaced, and there are plenty of online resources to guide you, including threads here. Well worth doing. But the Dynatron is a wild card -- it might suit you better than the ARs since tastes differ, and it is certainly good looking.
You have a nice set of options.
 
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