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Help: Quick Opinions/Info: Infinity Reference 4?, IV? Speakers

Cuseman

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Hello All,

I came across the opportunity to buy a pair of older Infinity speakers the owner identifies as 'Infinity Reference 4' 3-way floor speakers. The tweeters are emit-r's. Any opinions on these speakers or info on their age/value appreciated. Not sure if I made Christmas day offer I might regret.

Thanks all and Happy New Year. Any quick info appreciated.
 
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Well, my help wasn't all that quick and may not be all that accurate, but I was able to locate this page for one of Infinity's Reference 4 models. Infinity had many Reference series and continues to create more, so it's difficult to match particular models to the correct information thanks to this reuse of model numbers. So, this information may not be what you needed seeing how the EMIT-R was a later development than this particular model.

At any rate, did you snag them?

- JP
 
Any info on Infinity Reference four or now six vintage floor speakers

No, I did not snare the Reference fours. Someone else offered more. Thanks for the page you sent but these are an earlier version than the ones I was looking at. you are right in that Infinity keeps reusing names so it makes searchs difficult.

I am now looking at a set of Infinity Reference Six speakers in equally good condition. These also with the emit-r tweeter. They are 4-way speaks and apparently the top-of -the line in this series (early 80s I believe). The seller is asking $350.00 for the set.

Anyone know of these speakers and whether the price is reasonable?? Any feedback appreciated
 
Alright, I had to go to Infinity's page and go through the archives to find information on this newer model. Surprising that these models of another Reference series aren't on Infinity Classics.

REFERENCE SIX - 4-Way 225 Watt Speaker

PRODUCT SPECIFICATIONS

Frequency Response: 35Hz - 40kHz (+/-3dB)
Crossover Frequency(ies): 200Hz, 1.5kHz, 4kHz
Sensitivity: 90dB (1 watt/1 meter)
Nominal Impedance: 6 ohms
Power Rating: 35 - 225 watts
Woofer: 10" (25.4cm) IMG
Mid-Bass Driver: 6" (15.2cm) IMG
Midrange Driver: 5" (12.7cm)
Tweeter: EMIT-R

'Lot of good that'll do ya. It appears Infinity has removed the PDFs they used to have on past models containing information such as years, price, and crossover schematics. Oh, these are circa 1990, btw.

- JP
 
Found a pair of Reference Fours at a thrift Friday for $10. I haven't taken pics of them yet but the woofer is a black inverted dustcap plastic 8", the mid is a 5" plastic cone and the tweeter is an EMIT-R. The cabinet is solidly built with binding posts like on my RS-6001s that accept bananas, wire or spades. The woofers and mids need refoaming and that was the only reason they made it to the floor. According to a friend at the store, an employee was about to buy them when he noticed the foam issues. :)
 
Not a bad speaker, i bought my reference fours for 5.00 needing foams. Decent build quality, but the exterior finish is just ugly IMHO. I havent found correct sized foam for the mids yet, so i havent listened to them much at all short of testing them out to make sure all the drivers are in working condition. The mids are actually 4" in the reference fours.
 
gonzothegreat: Let me know how yours end up fitting if you get the ebay kit. I want to get mine up and running, but am having trouble finding the correct sized surrounds for the mids. If the ebay ones fit i will go that route.

Thanks,Jon
 
I just refoamed my Ref Fours last month using a kit sold on eBay. I found a (Florida-based) seller who had a 4-piece kit to refoam both the woofers and mids on this speaker. If you do a search for "Infinity Reference Four foam" on eBay, one or two options should show up. The kit I bought worked perfectly, including the right kind of glue for the IMG drivers and no need to trim the midrange foam.

BTW, I used the battery approach to center the drivers so I wouldn't have to remove the inverted dust caps for shimming. By far the hardest part of the job was removing the plastic trim rings that are glued to the driver baskets and hold the foam in place. The best way to do this is use a hair dryer or heat gun to melt the glue that holds the trim rings in place and then gently pry them off with a screwdriver. If the glue isn't melted first, it is really easy to crack the plastic rings (there are some very helpful AK threads about this).

My Fours were a thrift store purchase as well, but I paid quite a bit more than either of you ($30 for the pair). I think the only reason they made it to the floor is because one of the EMIT-R tweeters was completely blown (both the tweeter diaphragm and the thermal breaker were overloaded and had open circuits). After repairing that EMIT and refoaming all of the IMG drivers as a preventive measure, these are now serving as my main speakers in a small listening room. Despite how modest the woofer (especially) and midrange drivers are, they perform surprisingly well. I think they have been enough to get me addicted to EMITs and the Infinity house sound. Since I understand that these are pretty low on the Infinity totem pole, I will probably keep an eye out for better Infinity models in the future. Any thoughts on what would be a noticeable step up without breaking the bank?
 
IMHO anything with EMIT tweeters is worth grabbing and doubly so if it also has a dome midrange. I dropped $200 or so (can't remember exactly) on a pair of RS-6001 (EMIT, dome mid & two 8" woofers) and they are easily the most accurate speakers in my collection. The bass isn't earthshaking but it has detail in spades.

M Jarve is quite keen on the RS-6000
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=122066

I once passed on a pair of 6000s at a GW and I've been kicking myself ever since. Don't make my mistake.
 
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Thanks for the info, i will have to order one of the ebay kits and get around to refoaming mine one of these days. I will use my 30hz test tone cd which has worked fine for me so far.
 
I have a pair of Reference Fours that I refoamed about a year ago. I'm not big on the kits, as they seem way overpriced. Thanks to the information I have learned here, I use Aleen's Tacky Glue. One bottle has lasted me through more than 20 refoaming jobs. I order the surrounds separately but I wait until I have a few pair to refoam to save on shipping. I probably save 65-70% over the kits. BTW, I center the cones by touch, and haven't had a problem yet.

I don't think the Fours are BOTL speakers. They are the most precise speakers I have. They couldn't supplant my AR-93s because of the lesser bass performance. I am using the Fours in the mancave, and waiting to get the parts to repair a sub woofer to go with them.

Regards,

D-Ray
 
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