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Heresey low end help

ccawker

ccawker

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OK,so i get these dont go any lower of what they say but i hear some have put a little insulation,like normal house insulation but thinning it out a bit,to tighten things up.I already sealed with normal wood glue at joints and such.
Any comments on this or do i just leave it and enjoy.
 
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I once directly asked a Klipsch engineer (Delgado) about stuffing. His response was (paraphrased but I think it's word for word)...

"If we feel a speaker needs it, we add it....if we don't.....we don't"

To me, that implies that you might not hear any beneficial change by adding it.
 
FWIW my opinion on the Heresy speakers has changed since I got them a few years ago. I initially thought they lacked bass. I now feel they are a well balanced speaker.

Use them on the floor, tilted back, toe'd in. If the bass is in the recording, you'll hear it. I have better front end equipment now, and maybe that helps, too.

I really like them with classical music.

Make sure the cabinet is sealed, maybe re-cap the crossovers. Enjoy.
 
sometimes we only hear what we might be missing through comparison...if you get used to the speakers and enjoy them is there any problem???...

Bill
 
botrytis said:
Your ears got used to the speaker, the speakers didn't change.
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I didn't say the speakers changed, I said my opinion of them has changed. Not quite the same thing.

Do they hit as hard in the low end as some other speakers I have? No. My lowly Advents can beat them on the bottom end, but there's more to a good speaker that just bass.

They weren't designed as stand-alone stereo speakers. They were supposed to be a center-channel speaker placed between two Klipschorns. This makes what they do as stand-alone speakers even more surprising.

My Heresys aren't even in a system, so I'm not "used to their sound", but when I do occasionally hook them up I'm pleased with what they do.

I have a couple big dogs and an unprotected paper cone right at elk-antler-swingin' level portends a short life, so they live in basement storage at the moment, but they are worth keeping. I'll probably use them with tubes if I ever get my listening room finished.
 
Agree with everybody above- toed in a bit and in or near the corners. They're better balanced and have more bass than you might think. Not made for pipe organ, but can still surprise you at times, particularly with movies- they give great vocal definition if you have trouble with dialog.
 
I use mine in my small bedroom system, and they do really well in there. I have them placed on factory risers on the floor on either side of a large, solid dresser. This placement has helped the bass as opposed to when I had them in a larger, open room. If I needed more bass but liked the Klipsch sound, I'd be looking for some Fortes or similar instead of modding a Heresy.
 
I always thought Chorus and fortes were Herseys with a subwoofer passive radiator. The Forte uses more advanced Horns. For some professional small installations we used Herseys with M&K subwoofers back in the 90's and up until I retired in 2004. For homes we used Klipsch series subs with 12 in woofers. We installed a couple 5.2 HT systems with 5 Herseys with 2 subs and the sound was very good. The front speakers and subs were below the Stewart screen. The systems worked great with Sony, M&K, and Marantz HT AVR's.
 
ccawker said:
OK,so i get these dont go any lower of what they say but i hear some have put a little insulation,like normal house insulation but thinning it out a bit,to tighten things up.I already sealed with normal wood glue at joints and such.
Any comments on this or do i just leave it and enjoy.
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No amount of stuffing will provide any significant change in the low end. They just weren't designed to go low... When I auditioned a set, I thought maybe the woofers were out of phase, but nope :dunno: Lots of midrange punch though!
 
I use one of these with my Heresy IIIs. No bass issues here! Plus an expanded soundstage and fantastic overall sound.

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I added a M&K MX-125 to augment the boom my LaScala's are genetically without. On tubes, I run it flat. On the D-Class Crown, I run it as hard as I need to keep up with the LS's.

I'm dying to drive them with a serious tube amp someday. Even valve-driven by only 8w each, the woofers seem to thrive on tube juice. No rhyme or reason there. Just the ears loving it.
 
I added some insulation salvaged out of a beat up pair of Boston Acoustics A150 and it did a bit. The best advice given above was to add a subwoofer. I ran my Heresys off a Fisher 800B which has a center channel speaker tap. That's the tap I used. I replaced the Heresys with a setoff Cornwalls that are powered off the same Fisher receiver. They too sound great, but I'm not so sure they sound that much better than the Heresy/sub woofer combo.
 
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