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HH Scott products Discussion - 1947-1963 (Tube and Transistor)

H.H. Scotts' first product was "The Dynaural Noise Suppressor"
Uhhhh, I completely forgot about this, but I got one and was really not sure what it was, or what to do with it. I know it from HH Scott and because I had most of the common amplifiers from them and like it so I have been keeping it. I still have a LK-150 and 296 amplifiers..
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As someone that use to run a forum I found that the more of splitting into sub catergories caused less overall posts.

I own mostly fisher but find some of the Scott amps beautiful... I have their first solidstate amp and the one channel that works sound very good and tubey
 
Is there a serial number data base for these old HH Scott units? It would be nice if there was one. It would help date the specific pieces. The serial number on my 299-B is 116615 and looks to be a normal 299-b with no odd ball differences. My early 331-B Tuner which is the only one I can find in this model with the "Red" indicators on the sides of the dials has a low serial number of 3823. My 335 Wldeband Multiplex Adaptor has a serial number of 92434. This is just a thought and might be worth exploring?
 
I’d like to see a separate sub-forum. It may attract more Scott enthusiasts by showing up in search engines as a source for information on the brand more readily than the generic “Tube” forum title. It would be great to gather up as many of the existing Scott threads in one place but I know nothing about how that could be done.

One thing I’ve been wondering about for years is whether someone managed to archive the HH Scott forum that went dark years ago. It had an enormous amount of useful information, some from former Scott engineers who were members. I’d emailed Lee Shuster, who first set up the HHScott.com site in 1997, a number of times but have never received any response. I’m concerned that that site too may disappear without a trace and that it should be preserved somewhere so that we don’t lose that as well.
 
Uhhhh, I completely forgot about this, but I got one and was really not sure what it was, or what to do with it. I know it from HH Scott and because I had most of the common amplifiers from them and like it so I have been keeping it. I still have a LK-150 and 296 amplifiers..
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The rack mount and overall design is clearly that of old radio station equipment. I worked at an AM station in a tiny market in upstate New York in the 1980s and most of the equipment there was suitable for a broadcasting museum, it looked just like that.
 
I’d like to see a separate sub-forum. It may attract more Scott enthusiasts by showing up in search engines as a source for information on the brand more readily than the generic “Tube” forum title. It would be great to gather up as many of the existing Scott threads in one place but I know nothing about how that could be done.

One thing I’ve been wondering about for years is whether someone managed to archive the HH Scott forum that went dark years ago. It had an enormous amount of useful information, some from former Scott engineers who were members. I’d emailed Lee Shuster, who first set up the HHScott.com site in 1997, a number of times but have never received any response. I’m concerned that that site too may disappear without a trace and that it should be preserved somewhere so that we don’t lose that as well.

I emaild them also with no response. You are right there is a lot of info there that could just disappear and that would really suck.
 
I'm all for a Scott forum. It could give those who really value Scott gear an easier time focusing on it, and let those enthusiast restorers park in one place to share their knowledge and expertise. I know the gurus and mods on the other forums have helped immesurably in the collation and organization of thought and information, and especially on advise for restorations.

HHScott.com is a static site that is a good resource.

At last count (and this is for sure inaccurate at best), I have over 50 pieces of Scott (mostly tube) gear, only 7 of which came from AK'ers via Bartertown. I seem to be eternally on the quest to find good wood cabinets for my favorite pieces.

90% of everything I have learned about Scott gear came from AK. I have had to google the item of interest, find an appropriate AK thread (often there are several), which in turn led to others, and so the rabbit hole emerged and I fell in. There is a Scott enthusiast group on FB started by an AK'er. Lots of great pics and conversations. The group is relatively new (< 2 years).

I'm waiting to retire to be able to spend more time refurbishing things, and yes, I may have a problem and could clearly use an intervention. I need to learn to catch and release. Here's the nicest of the bunch.

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That’s a great collection. If I wasn’t so busy doing all sorts of other things I’d probably have something similar.

Another helpful source is John Byrns' HH Scott tuner page:

http://fmamradios.com/ScottTuners.html

And several other pages nestled in his amplifier page:

http://fmamradios.com/ScottAmps.html This includes a handy model chronology based on catalogs ranging from 1961-1966 and original price lists from 1961-1965.

http://fmamradios.com/Prices.html

His site has that late 90s look, and my experience is that those are the ones that tend to vanish without warning.
 
H. H. Scott

The Antique Collector: Focus on H. H. Scott | Hi-Fi+ (hifiplus.com)


Hermon Hosmer Scott founded H.H. Scott in 1947. The prefix H.H. was to differentiate his fledgling company from E. H. Scott, The Scott Radio Company of Chicago, and makers of "The Rolls Royce" of AM radios. Although H.H. is different than E.H., it is similar enough to make one wonder if perhaps Scott, always the shrewd businessman, hoped that some of E.H. Scotts' reputation for quality might, by association, rub off onto his new company.

H.H. Scotts' first product was "The Dynaural Noise Suppressor". This product, aimed primarily at the professional broadcast market, made it possible, for the first time, to play records on the radio. Prior to its' introduction, 78 rpm records were considered too full of pops and ticks to warrant airplay. Scotts' first product, while a technical step forward, changed the face of American Radio in a way that, in retrospect, cannot be considered positive. Overnight, all those wonderful live radio programs were replaced with recorded music. Chalk up another victory for technology over live music. Scott continued making a Dynaural Noise Suppressor through 1956, when the model 114A was finally discontinued.

When the Dynaural Noise Suppressor was first introduced, Scott licensed the device to several companies for inclusion in their products, among them, the Fisher Radio Company. This alliance was short-lived, as Scott soon began to market their own Amplifiers and Control Centers utilizing their Dynaural Noise Suppressor circuitry. From the beginning Fisher saw Scott as trouble, and their two companies were competitors through the mid-sixties. It's funny, that even today, when people think of Scott, they also think of Fisher. These two companies became the Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum of American Audio.

From the very beginning Scott used a model numbering system that was Rococo in its complexity. Scotts' use of letters to differentiate updated versions of products is still employed by many contemporary high-end manufacturers, and still wreaks havoc on hapless consumers. Like most overly complex systems, Scotts' model numbering system was designed to be simple. The system was set up as follows:

100 - Preamps and control centers

200 - Power amplifiers and integrated amps

300 - RF devices like Tuners

400 - Sound Measuring Devices

700 - Pro Sound Products

800 - Acoustic Measuring Devices

The system worked rather well until 1952 when the model 99A integrated amplifier was released. This unit was the first to mount tubes horizontally, pioneering "slim-line" styling that is common in current audio components. The marketing folks at Scott felt that since their product was priced at "only" $99, what better way to get their point across than call the unit model 99. It should have been christened the 299 to adhere to the system, and in 1960 Scott did introduce a model 299 integrated amp. The model 99 went through several incarnations, and remained in the Scott line well into the stereo era. The model 99D was finally dropped from the product line in the September 1964 price list.

Although Scotts' first product, the Dynaural Noise Suppressor was important as the Dolby, or DBX of its day, Scotts' primary contribution to Audio was its FM tuners. If there is a single antique Scott product worth owning in 1987 it is one of their tuners. While no one man is ever responsible for a major new technology, Daniel Von Recklinghausen, Scotts' chief engineer, was certainly a major force in the development and popularization of FM radio. Von Recklinghausen, unlike his contemporaries, still has designs that are in the forefront of current State-Of-The-Art audio technology. The EMIT tweeter, that can be found in some of the finest systems in the world (including Sea Cliff) was designed by Von Reclinghausen. KLH first marketed it as the DVR tweeter (you are all such quick studies that I need not tell you what DVR stands for).

Von Ricklinghausen, was, and is, a rare breed of audio engineer; one who uses his ears, and has an open mind. A quote from a Boston Audio Society Meeting best illustrates his philosophy "if it measures good, and sounds bad, it is bad. If it sounds good, and measures bad, you've measured the wrong thing.” Listening was in integral part of the design process at Scott. The "Audio hall of Fame" article on H. H. Scott contains the story that once Scott came to work one morning with a black eye, the result of a scuffle with an angry neighbor who objected to Scotts' nighttime listening and testing sessions. This is the kind of dedication to sound quality that is only found today among high-end manufacturers. At Scott, the sound of music was the reference.

An Article in December 1954, co- written by Von Recklinghausen, Casey, and Pomper, introduced the public to the first commercial wide-band FM only tuner, the 310A. Scott was so confident of their lead in the market that the article even included a schematic of the new unit. This six-month lead in FM technology continued up through the multiplex stereo era. Not only did Scott bring to market the first FM multiplex adapter and first FM multiplex tuner, but also they designed and built the first multiplex broadcasting and test equipment.

Scott took some very calculated risks in the development of their multiplex adapter. No one knew which of four systems tested would be accepted by the FCC as the standard, so Von Recklinghausen and his staff had to design multiplex adapters for each of the four systems, utilizing as many of the same parts in each design as possible. On April 19, 1961, when the FCC finally announced the new multiplex standard, Scott was ready with enough parts and materials in stock to immediately manufacture 1000 multiplex adapters, and begin shipping them to radio stations across the country.

During Scotts' first 15 years, from 1947 to 1962, they were more of a high-end manufacturer than a mid-fi or consumer electronics company. Products were added not because it was a new year, and marketing demanded new products, but when substantial enough improvements were made in a design to warrant a new product. During the sixties, the definition of "substantial improvement" became increasingly abused, as marketing became more influential in decision-making. In the early days, Scott products were not cheap. In 1956 Their Model 280 - an 80 watt mono power amp sold for $199.95, their 310B tuner for $159.95. In 1987 dollars, the 280 would cost $860, the 310B about $690.

Scott remained independent until 1973, when it was sold to its European distributor, Electro Audio Dynamics. This began the final chapter in a gradual decline that began back in the mid 1960's. The transistor age, and the entry of foreign product into the American audio marketplace was the beginning of the end for Scott, Fisher, and most of the American manufacturers. Rather than aim for the smaller upscale market, as did Macintosh, Scott tried to beat the Japanese at their own game. Scott Lost.

While its early products are important, and much sought after by collectors, "The Antique Collector" will concentrate on components made between 1956 and 1964. 1956 on the bottom side because most electronics that are more than 30 years old needs substantial restoration and modification for reliable everyday use, and earlier pieces are priced to reflect their rarity and collectability rather than their sonic virtues. After 1964 Scott products took a rapid nose-dive in quality and sonic excellence.
Good Info...I just bought a mint pair of HH Scott Bostonian one / 1985 book shelves & they are very nice build & sound quality...not sure who owned them in the 80s but these were still made in Massachusetts/ USA
 
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