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I AM BACK IN THE VINYL GAME

RT Fan

RT Fan

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After a prolonged period with no working TT's I finally got around to having my 2 Dual TT"s brought back to life. I had a 505/2 that I purchased 30 years ago which I thought would be my last TT, bought together with my first CD player which long ago bit the dust. The other TT was a Dual 5000 that was bought here in Bartertown, that wasn't in the best of shape.
I found a reputable repair shop on the east end of Long Island that I could take my tables to while on vacation. Soth Street Service in Southold, NY.http://turntableexperts.com/html/about_us.html
Adam the owner spent his career working for Garrard, Dual & BIC. I gave him a 1 month window to fix the TT's until my next visit. He sent me emails containing the full repair estimates and the work to be done. He saved me some coin by swapping the Ortofon stylus from my 505 to the 5000, which I had told him would be getting the lion's share of the usage.
Here is what was done:

Dual 5000 turntable

Here's what we found & will repair on your unit.

1) Audio cables poor--replace with 6' gold end type audio cable.

2) Line cord poor--spliced--Replace with new cable.

3) Belt slipping--replace

4) CB weight on backwards & tracking MUCH to heavy.
5) Stylus is an Ortofon 20 & works but slightly (3 degrees) out of perpendicular.

A new 20 stylus is EXPENSIVE--$175 BUT you can use the Ortofon 10 (almost the same)--cost $60.00. Both are elliptical & track at 1.5 grams.

Let me know if you want to replace now & which one to use.
6) Clean, lube & align motor & entire mechanism.

7) Check & test audio & entire unit when done.

Total--parts & labor $265.00. --STYLUS if replaced is extra.


And on the 505:

Here's what we found & will repair on your Dual 505/2 turntable.

Worth repairing but please email your OK to proceed.

1) Drive belt missing--replace

2) Motor won't start--rebuild switch & motor

3) Replace pitch belt.

4) Clean, lube & align motor & entire mechanism.

5) Check & test audio & entire unit when done.


Total--parts & labor $149.00 for the repair + $49.95 for Ortofon stylus.

STYLUS on this unit is good. We will use this type 20 in 5000 & supply type 10 for this unit.

Adam helped me with a deal of $450 cash for everything all in, which I thought was very fair. So now I have two excellent sounding TT's, both better than new. It will be a treat for me to listen to my LP collection again, in particular the ones that I don't have on CD. I would recommend to any AK members who reside in the general area to avail yourselves of his services. Kudos to an honest repair shop. In addition Adam sells DUAL parts on the auction site, his seller name is an original one, dualparts LOL! 13,000 sales and a 100% rating. I am sure more than a few members here have bought parts from him.

Before anyone complains about the lack of pictures, I am fairly inept regarding computers but at some point I will try to post some. It will be nice to have a new source for listening to music. For me vinyl lives once again. Thanks for listening, so to speak. RT FAN.
 
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The guys here who buy old turntables and refurbish them seldom consider how much it would cost to have the work done. If you are a skilled turntable mechanic and you spend 20 hours stripping a turntable down to the bare parts, cleaning everything, and reassembling it, how much do you have in the turntable? Much more than the $15 you paid at the flea market. If you were paying for your own labor at $50 an hour, you'd do better to buy a new 'table.
 
vinyl1 said:
The guys here who buy old turntables and refurbish them seldom consider how much it would cost to have the work done. If you are a skilled turntable mechanic and you spend 20 hours stripping a turntable down to the bare parts, cleaning everything, and reassembling it, how much do you have in the turntable? Much more than the $15 you paid at the flea market. If you were paying for your own labor at $50 an hour, you'd do better to buy a new 'table.
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True, of course, but a big part of the fun is the process. :)
 
vinyl1 said:
The guys here who buy old turntables and refurbish them seldom consider how much it would cost to have the work done. If you are a skilled turntable mechanic and you spend 20 hours stripping a turntable down to the bare parts, cleaning everything, and reassembling it, how much do you have in the turntable? Much more than the $15 you paid at the flea market. If you were paying for your own labor at $50 an hour, you'd do better to buy a new 'table.
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I don't get this. Are you saying that fixing up a $15 turntable is a waste and that it would be better to buy new? If that's what you're saying then I have to disagree.

I just did 2 Duals over, a 1019 and a 1215. Each probably took about 5 hours, 20 hours for an experienced tech? That's way too long.

As for paying yourself $50/hr. Sure, I'd be happy to make over 100k a year. When you make less it doesn't make sense to pay someone to do something you are capable of and have time to do.
 
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RT Fan said:
After a prolonged period with no working TT's I finally got around to having my 2 Dual TT"s brought back to life. I had a 505/2 that I purchased 30 years ago which I thought would be my last TT, bought together with my first CD player which long ago bit the dust. The other TT was a Dual 5000 that was bought here in Bartertown, that wasn't in the best of shape.
I found a reputable repair shop on the east end of Long Island that I could take my tables to while on vacation. Soth Street Service in Southold, NY.http://turntableexperts.com/html/about_us.html
Adam the owner spent his career working for Garrard, Dual & BIC. I gave him a 1 month window to fix the TT's until my next visit. He sent me emails containing the full repair estimates and the work to be done. He saved me some coin by swapping the Ortofon stylus from my 505 to the 5000, which I had told him would be getting the lion's share of the usage.
Here is what was done:

Dual 5000 turntable

Here's what we found & will repair on your unit.

1) Audio cables poor--replace with 6' gold end type audio cable.

2) Line cord poor--spliced--Replace with new cable.

3) Belt slipping--replace

4) CB weight on backwards & tracking MUCH to heavy.
5) Stylus is an Ortofon 20 & works but slightly (3 degrees) out of perpendicular.

A new 20 stylus is EXPENSIVE--$175 BUT you can use the Ortofon 10 (almost the same)--cost $60.00. Both are elliptical & track at 1.5 grams.

Let me know if you want to replace now & which one to use.
6) Clean, lube & align motor & entire mechanism.

7) Check & test audio & entire unit when done.

Total--parts & labor $265.00. --STYLUS if replaced is extra.


And on the 505:

Here's what we found & will repair on your Dual 505/2 turntable.

Worth repairing but please email your OK to proceed.

1) Drive belt missing--replace

2) Motor won't start--rebuild switch & motor

3) Replace pitch belt.

4) Clean, lube & align motor & entire mechanism.

5) Check & test audio & entire unit when done.


Total--parts & labor $149.00 for the repair + $49.95 for Ortofon stylus.

STYLUS on this unit is good. We will use this type 20 in 5000 & supply type 10 for this unit.

Adam helped me with a deal of $450 cash for everything all in, which I thought was very fair. So now I have two excellent sounding TT's, both better than new. It will be a treat for me to listen to my LP collection again, in particular the ones that I don't have on CD. I would recommend to any AK members who reside in the general area to avail yourselves of his services. Kudos to an honest repair shop. In addition Adam sells DUAL parts on the auction site, his seller name is an original one, dualparts LOL! 13,000 sales and a 100% rating. I am sure more than a few members here have bought parts from him.

Before anyone complains about the lack of pictures, I am fairly inept regarding computers but at some point I will try to post some. It will be nice to have a new source for listening to music. For me vinyl lives once again. Thanks for listening, so to speak. RT FAN.
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Wow, I just moved nearby, and I have an old Garrard Type A that works well, but has problems lining the arm up correctly to play the first track when I want to stack records. Probably just needs a tweak or something, but I will definitely take it to him when I get a chance to have him look at it. Thanks for sharing this.
 
jgannon said:
Wow, I just moved nearby, and I have an old Garrard Type A that works well, but has problems lining the arm up correctly to play the first track when I want to stack records. Probably just needs a tweak or something, but I will definitely take it to him when I get a chance to have him look at it. Thanks for sharing this.
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When you do Mr. Gannon make sure you go to lunch at The North Fork Food Truck which is part of the North Fork Table restaurant in Southold, one of the best restaurants on Long Island. I would recommend the Lobster Roll, the Banh Mi, or the Tomato, Mozzarella, Arugula & Pesto sandwich which is off the charts. French Fries with Aioli are a must order. You can BYOB to sit on the picnic tables out back. A+++. A stop at the Macari Vinyards or Sparkling Pointe is a nice touch.

PM me if you have any questions about South Street or out east.
 
Good to hear you are finding you record collection again. same thing happened to me about three years ago and i am enjoying listening more than i have for a couple decades (and spending too much time on discogs). now if i could just find a couple of those RT records i want at a decent price
 
RT Fan said:
When you do Mr. Gannon make sure you go to lunch at The North Fork Food Truck which is part of the North Fork Table restaurant in Southold, one of the best restaurants on Long Island. I would recommend the Lobster Roll, the Banh Mi, or the Tomato, Mozzarella, Arugula & Pesto sandwich which is off the charts. French Fries with Aioli are a must order. You can BYOB to sit on the picnic tables out back. A+++. A stop at the Macari Vinyards or Sparkling Pointe is a nice touch.

PM me if you have any questions about South Street or out east.
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Thanks RT. I used to live out on the east end years ago, and it's great to be out here again. I will definitely look out for the restaurant you mentioned. Sounds really good!

You know, you want to talk about audio karma, last evening, I took a ride past Adam's place just to see where it was, and in the front, there was a FedEx sign and some other things like that. And this morning I had to send a very important fax. I'm new here, and wasn't sure where to go. So, I thought I'd go over to his place in that it had that sign. Anyway, I pull up and no one is there. And I start walking back to my car, and a car pulls right up next to mine.

When the gentleman walked out, I asked him if he were the proprietor, and he said he was. I asked him if he sent any faxes and he said no. And then I asked him if his name was Adam. He of course, said yes, and I told him that I was on the Audiokarma website, which he of course again, new about. I said I had heard about his place through the site, and we started talking. I told him about my Type A, and that I would eventually bring it in.

At any rate, I asked him if he knew of a place to send a fax, and he directed me to a place just down the block from him. So I went there and sent it.

Anyway RT, thanks for your recommendations and help. And welcome back to vinyl, and happy spinning on your refurbished Duals!
 
Great that your spinning once again, RT! :thumbsup: Let I tell everyone here "Keep Spinning!". :music:

So glad you posted this thread with the turntable guy in Southold! Told Gannon that's the sign "Turntable Repair Man" that he made the right move out there! :biggrin:
 
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