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I don't get "vinyls"

Folks - for a period of time, the record industry made records out of polyvinyl chloride. From that came the shorthand term "vinyl".
 
"Vinyls" kinda sounds like what the late, great Andy Kaufmann-as "Latka" on Taxi would have called 'em, w/his whimsical, slightly out-of-kilter command of English...
 
I got a few two groove music disks over here too :D :smoke:

LP's you say, is that what they are called :thmbsp:
 
cwall99 said:
Same place where someone started using the word "verbiage" (or "verbage") when they mean "copy", "text", "words", or "language".
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I guess "someone" is Websters dictionary:

Definition of VERBIAGE
1: a profusion of words usually of little or obscure content <such a tangled maze of evasive verbiage as a typical party platform — Marcia Davenport>
2: manner of expressing oneself in words : diction <sportswriters guarded their verbiage so jealously — R. A. Sokolov>
Examples of VERBIAGE
The editor removed some of the excess verbiage from the article.
<teachers loathe the verbiage that students resort to in order to pad a paper>
Origin of VERBIAGE
French, from Middle French verbier to chatter, alteration of Old French verboier, verbloier, from Old French (Picard dial.) werbler to trill — more at warble
First Known Use: circa 1721

Not cool, Dude :nono:
 
kermit z said:
So, in reality, Cd's could be called "RLP's" for Really long play :) I'm just saying...
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I'd say they could be called MLPs (Moderately Long Playing). The king of LPs would be, of course, that guy with 80 gazillion songs crammed onto his hard drive.
 
cwall99 said:
Same place where someone started using the word "verbiage" (or "verbage") when they mean "copy", "text", "words", or "language".
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I have the Webster's Unabridged Dictionary sitting on my lap... but Mark Walters already beat me to the post! :D



onepixel said:
Vinyls is like scroes. Some fool misspelled it and it's propagated for one reason or another. The plural of vinyl is vinyl like the words fish or sheep. Oddly there is no word that describes this.

As for the word vinyl... I picked up this "slang" here at AK. I used to say albums and records before the introduction of CDs. Now it's just records when I speak about them, but vinyl when I write about them. Weird.
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Actually, there plural of vinyl isn't vinyl. There IS NO PLURAL for vinyl, because vinyl is not countable. It's an amorphous substance, like tar, air or water. Would you say "There are more water in this bottle than there are in that bottle"? No, it is non-sensical, because water cannot be counted.

Records can be counted. LPs can be counted. You can count 33s, 45s and 78s (as commonly used to refer to records that play at those speeds (if you ignore the fractional part of 33-1/3 :D).

But "vinyls"? Sorry, no way! :nono: It is a mistake that should be corrected when a teenager or twenty-something person makes it, just as a parent should correct a toddler making basic grammar mistakes. How are people to learn, if on one tells them?

Of course, language is a changing and evolving thing, not a static thing, but if you use that as an excuse to not attempt to maintain some degree of consistency in the language over time, then very soon there will be increased mis-communication and an inability to correctly understand the legacy of prior communication, and a slew of problems will emerge from that. Changes that add specificity and accuracy, or which increase options for meaningful expression, should be welcomed, but changes that diminish our options for communication, or which may tend to cause confusion or misunderstanding, should be opposed.

I'll continue to correct every young (or old!) person I hear talking about "vinyls", because it is just plain WRONG.

Yes, if the mistake is repeated frequently enough and for a long enough period of time, then it may eventually cease to be considered a mistake. The word "kids" comes to mind as an example; no longer does it correctly mean only baby goats! But is this process of language change over time an acceptable excuse to allow every mistake that is made to go unchecked, so that mistakes can propagate among those who don't know better? Do we really wish to encourage and hasten the evolutionary change process of the language? I think not, if we want our children to understand tomorrow what we write today.
 
As a teenager from the 70's everything was either an "Album", a "Tape" (cassette), or an "8-track" (a few of us had "Reels"). Album was an all encompassing term for the jacket, the record inside it and whatever other printed material came with it. Took me long enough to get used to hearing people refer to CD's as albums. I just can't latch onto using the term "Vinyls".
 
Arkay said:
...Yes, if the mistake is repeated frequently enough and for a long enough period of time, then it may eventually cease to be considered a mistake. The word "kids" comes to mind as an example; no longer does it correctly mean only baby goats! But is this process of language change over time an acceptable excuse to allow every mistake that is made to go unchecked, so that mistakes can propagate among those who don't know better? Do we really wish to encourage and hasten the evolutionary change process of the language? I think not, if we want our children to understand tomorrow what we write today.
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Noam Chomsky wrote about origin and evolution of language. I seen his books in the libary.
 
audiojones said:
Noam Chomsky wrote about origin and evolution of language. I seen his books in the libary.
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That deserves two LOLs! LOL. LOL!

That's my kind of humor. :D

And michaelhigh has the right idea. Just give me more LPs! :music: :banana:

Here in Minnesota, it's "recerds". :thmbsp:

Doug
 
Rybeam said:
A new reference means new interest. OK by me.
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So does that mean I can sell my vinyls to some young whippersnapper for big bucks and retire?
meggy said:
As a teenager from the 70's everything was either an "Album", a "Tape" (cassette), or an "8-track" (a few of us had "Reels"). Album was an all encompassing term for the jacket, the record inside it and whatever other printed material came with it. Took me long enough to get used to hearing people refer to CD's as albums. I just can't latch onto using the term "Vinyls".
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I understood from way back when that an audio recording "album" was originally a COLLECTION of 78RPM records in one container (the notebook thing with each disc in a sleeve bound into the book). The advantage of the LP was you could put a whole album on one disc.

What I find hilarious is there have been symphony recordings released on seven-inch 45RPM records. Listening to it with all the interruptions would be worse than 8-track.

So what were those ten-inch things that I saw somewhere around the '80's? Those were made of vinyl, and I recall them called "EP"S for Extended Play. What could be confusing is decades earlier there were ten-inch 78RPM records as well.
 
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