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I Wanna Cry!!!!

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I just missed the SUNN/JBL speakers on ebay... I got sniped :tears:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-SUNN-Co...emZ300123784789QQcategoryZ47094QQcmdZViewItem

I had my almost top bid in thinking I got it at 15 seconds left.. then at the last 6 seconds, a new user popped up and outbid me by $50 and won :tears: I was trying to type in a new bid as fast as I could, and I missed it.. :tears::tears::tears:

I learned.. take no bids for granted.. always put in yout very top dollare at the last of the game... ya snooze ya lose :boring:
 
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Similost, I feel your pain. I have been outbid like that and it is a shock the first time. You learned a valuable lesson though and that is to get your best bid on the table. If you bid high enough, a snipper can't get you.

Bruhl
 
At that price level, I believe $50 is the increment, so you don't really know if the winner outbid you by $50, or $500, in unused proxy.

The way to avoid the feelings of loss and regret are to do the following:
  1. Bid once
  2. Bid as late as possible (last few seconds)
  3. Bid your absolute maximum

If you do that, and still lose, you are confident that someone paid more than you were willing to pay.
 
luvvinvinyl said:
At that price level, I believe $50 is the increment, so you don't really know if the winner outbid you by $50, or $500, in unused proxy.

The way to avoid the feelings of loss and regret are to do the following:
  1. Bid once
  2. Bid as late as possible (last few seconds)
  3. Bid your absolute maximum

If you do that, and still lose, you are confident that someone paid more than you were willing to pay.
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I've only bid one other time on e-bay and I won... I was using my wife's account for this.. the one time I did bid on an item, I put in my top dollar, and in the last few seconds it only went up by $30 or something like that, not much activity...

This time, with such big money, and since there was such little activity on it during the whole time.. a local pick up, and during the day when not so many people can get to the internet from work, I was really hoping I would get it with what I had placed on it'...., and not thinking.. I was willing to go more than I had actually put in... but I messed up.. It is a live and learn world..

On the bright side of it.. leaving for Vegas two weeks from today.. so.. told the wife I can take what we saved not winning the speakers, and I can make a visit to the bunny ranch :thmbsp: YEAH RIGHT!!!!

I just hope that my bidding was enough to keep someone away with the intensions of parting them out and selling the drivers for a profit on e-bay.. It would be a shame to see something in such great shape for their age destroyed.. I figured prices, and depending, they could have brought between 3 and 5 k in parts on the bay... man I hope the guy that won them understands the rarity behind them..
 
The Bid High, Bid Last is always the best strategy. To do it best, use a sniping program like Esnipe which is what I use.

For some of us who live a little dangerously, the thrill can also be had by bidding snipe bidding twice on the same auction. Although I don't recommend it, I've known some who will put in their "hope I can get it for this" price say at 15 seconds, and then a "I just gotta have it, maybe no limit" price at less than 7 seconds. Note though this would best be done by snipe bidding because trying to react to the initial shock of being outbid and trying to type in bids at the last second takes too long.

You would have had to outbid your rival by at least another $50 and likely would have had to put in a bid of at least $250 to maybe flush him out. You might contact the winniing bidder and ask what was their top bid for reference, you might be surprised. It could have been as high as $4000!!
Anyway, you obviously have something in common with your interest in Sunn Gear so getting to know the winning bidder might get you a listen to the system. (All pre-assumes the system is not getting parted out).

Regards,

Bart
 
mech986 said:
The Bid High, Bid Last is always the best strategy. To do it best, use a sniping program like Esnipe which is what I use.

For some of us who live a little dangerously, the thrill can also be had by bidding snipe bidding twice on the same auction. Although I don't recommend it, I've known some who will put in their "hope I can get it for this" price say at 15 seconds, and then a "I just gotta have it, maybe no limit" price at less than 7 seconds. Note though this would best be done by snipe bidding because trying to react to the initial shock of being outbid and trying to type in bids at the last second takes too long.

You would have had to outbid your rival by at least another $50 and likely would have had to put in a bid of at least $250 to maybe flush him out. You might contact the winniing bidder and ask what was their top bid for reference, you might be surprised. It could have been as high as $4000!!
Anyway, you obviously have something in common with your interest in Sunn Gear so getting to know the winning bidder might get you a listen to the system. (All pre-assumes the system is not getting parted out).

Regards,

Bart
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A lot of very good points and lessons in there... I know about sniping, but never been to one of the sites for it.. I do know I wished e-bay would outlaw it, because it sure does take any fairness away... yeh.. I had thought about whoever it was could have put 4 grand on it.. but they may have only put 3.. who knows.. I was willing to go to 3, and then over that it was just not worth it... I did tell the wife I could easily have seen them bring in 4 or 5 grand..

I have been somewhat of a sunn fan, but I'm an even bigger JBL fan... but not as big as my wallet was getting on this auction.. The reason I was after these, was because from all of the research I've done on these, from best I could tell, my wife's cousin, Bob Heil worked with sunn and designed the Coliseum PA series... we wanted to have them for the nostalgia of owning something her family had their hand in...

Things are meant to happen for reasons.. maybe someone knew we'll need the money down the road or something.. but I did learn a big lesson about bidding on e-bay if I ever do again...
 
Too bad buddy, too bad.

What I do is bid the max I'm willing to pay and let it ride. Sometimes I get something considerably cheaper than what I'm willing to pay and sometimes I'm outbid. But it doesn't bother me to be outbid because I've already decided what I'm willing to spend.
 
Don't feel bad, I got outbid on some Marantz 940s I'd been lusting after all week.
BASTARDS!! :finger: :finger:
There, I feel better now...
 
Tom Brennan said:
Too bad buddy, too bad.

What I do is bid the max I'm willing to pay and let it ride. Sometimes I get something considerably cheaper than what I'm willing to pay and sometimes I'm outbid. But it doesn't bother me to be outbid because I've already decided what I'm willing to spend.
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Yeh.. I had already put in twice what my top bid was going to be, but as it got closer and closer, I was willing to go more.. so I upped my bid again.. in the last 15 seconds, I said screw it.. what ever it takes.. I was trying to put in 3.. but had it of hit that and left me enough time, I would have gone even higher...

I guess some times in the heat of things, you lose all sanity and do some really stupid things.. I think in this case, it was a good loss, because if I would have went much higher, it would have become a marriage issue. My wife wanted them too, but not for over what I had already put on them...

I did send the winner a note congratulating him and said I hope he realized what a rare find he won and will enjoy the,.. going by his user ID, I have a feeling they have found a good home.. I can only hope, it would be such a shame to see them destroyed...
 
Bummer

Too bad you didn't get them. You have such a great story why you wanted them too. Maybe you'll get lucky the the high bidder will flake. It could happen.
 
bowtie427ss said:
http://www.powersnipe.com/

Best money i ever spent relative to ebay.:thmbsp:

Snipe or be sniped..................... that's how ebay works.:yes:
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Looks like something I'll have to give a try if I ever find anything else I want that bad on e-bay... I do like the retraction feature too.. interesting...

I'm just not an e-bay person I guess.. I just don't trust the people that much.. My wife has had a couple issues, and has only won 10 items.. I've only bid and won once.. and even then I had problems with trying to get the seller to ship my Sansui quad. I paid the day I won.. it took over two weeks to get him to ship.. I will say though, he did do a damn fine job packing.. He did however say everything worked perfectly.. and wouldn't you know, I get it and all of the tuner dial lights and fuses were burnt..

I would rather deal with CL.. at least you can go see what you are wanting to buy..
 
It is a snipe or be sniped world on ePrey now. I use esnipe. Put my top number in, set the time to bid, and forget about it.

If I'm outbid -- good on the winner. My bid number is as high as I was going to go.
 
Seconded those that say "bid your max and forget about it 'till its over", whether you snipe or not. Of course, if you decide to snipe, you don't have to be let down by your fingers not typing fast enough....
mech986 said:
I've known some who will put in their "hope I can get it for this" price say at 15 seconds, and then a "I just gotta have it, maybe no limit" price at less than 7 seconds.
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Bart, please explain the logic behind behind the dual bid approach to me: There may be a point that's lost on me, but it seems to me that if your max. is, say, $500 and you only have to go up to $300 to get it, you will get it at $300 even with a single bid - there is no need for that dual bid approach to achieve this, is it?
 
Njord Noatun said:
Seconded those that say "bid your max and forget about it 'till its over", whether you snipe or not. Of course, if you decide to snipe, you don't have to be let down by your fingers not typing fast enough....
Bart, please explain the logic behind behind the dual bid approach to me: There may be a point that's lost on me, but it seems to me that if your max. is, say, $500 and you only have to go up to $300 to get it, you will get it at $300 even with a single bid - there is no need for that dual bid approach to achieve this, is it?
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Hi Njord,

There is no 'logic" when it comes to bidding! Sometimes, for some, it is the thrill of the hunt or getting a "relative bargain". As the OP said above, sometimes getting closer to the end, one has a change of heart/mind and then starts to up the bidding. With an increased snipe bid placed later, you can watch as the bids come in.

Sometimes it feels good to know you have won with a small bid and no one else tried to beat you. Other times, it's fun to see people bid but lower than you so you still win. Still, sometimes you may find that someone has outbid you, and your second bid comes in just seconds later and trumps. A great feeling if you win. At that point though, it probably doesn't feel like the "bargain score", just a win.

However, just like anything on EBay, you can be outbid even with a ton of last second bids on your part, so long as they are higher, you still lose :tears::tears:. That can hurt, but at least you knew you gave it all you can, save your marriage!

Although I don't recommend it, the above is just a way to inject a little emotion or even "entertainment" into the bidding process. For example, I've seen a lot of bidders who have done the same thing as the OP, they bid incrementally up to the highest, then add some additional bids on top. Reasons and top bid are unknown, although it can be viewed as showing intense interest and might even be seen as a mild intimidation to some bidders.

I've even seen bidders who will punch in a super high bid just to view/see what the reserve or high bid is, then retract the bid and plan/plot their strategy. Not strictly kosher though. OTOH, the loss of seeing who you are bidding against and being able to research their bidding habits is a real screw to the other bidders.

Its just the psychology of the whole bidding process and what you want out of it I guess. It's not my usual form of bidding surely.

Regards,

Bart
 
although it can be viewed as showing intense interest and might even be seen as a mild intimidation to some bidders.
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Um.. yep.. that was something I was hoping on too, was that someone would see that I kept upping my bid even after I still had the high bid, but right after someone else placed a bid less than my max.. I was hoping they would think I would do what ever it took.. BUT.. someone with a bigger desire sure can come in and place a lot more last second than they ever intended to spend, and get the item for less than that..

I would much rather go to a live auction.. at least then you can read everyone's poker face and get an idea if you have half a chance.. I did get outbid on a house once, and we had gone quite a bit over what we said we would, but we didn't think the person that outbid us had the kind of cash he put on it... he was dressed like a redneck slob... come to find out, he owned the farm land around the house, and wanted to level it... amazing what he paid for a patch of dirt.. I sure didn't read that poker face too well :(

OH well.. it was the satisfaction of knowing I was pissing off someone that was pissing off me.. :)
 
Wornears said:
It is a snipe or be sniped world on ePrey now.
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Yes sir.

And there is nothing eBay can do about it without slowing down the bidding for everyone (those "enter the numbers to the right" type things?), because if they somehow banned automatic sites you'd be able to download a program to your computer.

I like it - bid and "run away" lol!

Pete
 
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