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Infinity Kappa 8.1/Infinity RS8Kappa

islapapa

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Hello All,

Have the chance to buy Infinity Kappa 8.1 or Infinity RS8Kappa speakers. In reviewing a couple of vintage sites, ie. Bobby Shred's site, the Kappa line is not included in the "great" models. How good are the Kappas? Are they more of a consumer vs audiophile line? What's the difference between the two models listed above? Any other input would be greatly appreciated!

BTW I listen to jazz and blues mostly...

Many Thanks in advance,

Steve
 
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They are both excellent speakers. In my opinion, the one thing that makes the biggest difference between those two speakers, is the type of cabinet used. The original Kappa 8 is a sealed speaker. The second generation Kappa 8.1 is a ported speaker. For most jazz, I think a sealed box design sounds better, as the bass is tighter. For blues, I think it's probably an even match, as the ported design gives the advantage of a more powerful soundfield.

You must also consider what type of amplifier you are using. The original Kappa 8 is very demanding, and will require a high current amp. The 8.1's are much less demanding and can be used with most amps and receivers, without the worry of damaging your equipment.
 
Kappa's are awesome speakers, especially the Kappa 8 and 9. They definitely qualify as audiophile (whatever that is :D).

The K8 is the original model. It is a 4-way sealed-box (acoustic suspension) design with a rear-firing EMIT tweeter. Specs are as follows:

Introduced: 1987
Dimensions: 120 x 51 x 20 cm
Bass: 1 x 30 cm
Mids: 1 x Kappa-Polygraph, 1 x Kappa-Polydome
Highs: 2 x EMIT (one on the back)
Suggested for amplifiers with: 50-250 Watts per channel
Frequency range: 33 Hz - 45 kHz
Crossover frequencies: 90 Hz, 700 Hz, 5000 Hz
Suggested price (pair): 1998 $

Here's a photo:
Kappa_8A_3_1.jpg


The K8 is one of Infinity's famous 'amp killers' due to its sealed box design and crossover architecture, which resulted in a very difficult impedance curve that dips down to 2 ohms in some regions. These speakers are very demanding, and require a serious amp that is capable of producing prodigious quantities of current into that 2-ohm load. Amps with these capabilities are usually heavy, hot, and quite expensive.

The K8.1 was the next generation of the Kappa speakers. It is also a 4-way design, but is quite different from the original K8 in most other aspects. The cabinet for the K8.1 has a very different profile and is a tuned-port design (the port is on the rear). The K8.1's tweeters are the newer round EMIT (EMIT-r). The K8.1 also eliminates the rear-firing tweeter, and uses a cone mid-bass coupler in place of the original's Polygraph dome driver. Here's some specs for the K8.1:

Introduced: 1992
Dimensions: 123 x 43 x 30 cm
Bass: 1 x 30 cm
Mids: 1 x Midbass Coupler, 1 x Polydome
Highs: 1 x EMIT-R
Suggested for amplifiers with: 40-300 Watts per channel
Frequency range: 32Hz - 35 kHz
Crossover frequencies: 180 Hz, 700 Hz, 4700 Hz
Suggested price (pair): $ 2200

Here's a photo of the K8.1
Kappa-8.1i-8.2i_11_1.jpg


Due to the ported design, the K8.1 is MUCH easier to drive than the original, so one need not spend quite as much on amplification (though these speakers will still benefit from using good quality gear).

Sound-wise, both are very good speakers that image well. Some feel that the bass from the tuned port K8.1 is not quite as fast,tight, articulate, or visceral (that kick-in-the-stomach feeling) as the original K8. The improved cabinet profile of the 8.1 probably reduced some cabinet-related distortion and improved imaging, which may offset the removal of the rear-firing tweeter. I think either speaker would be very enjoyable, but as always, if you can listen first with familiar program material and make your own judgements, you will come out ahead. Just be aware that if you go with the K8, you can't skimp on amplification.
 
Here is one more pic of the front ported (North American market) K8.1 II.
Most Kappas in the European market were rear ported.
Minolta20071342.jpg
 
Here is one more pic of the front ported (North American market) K8.1 II.
Most Kappas in the European market were rear ported.
Minolta20071342.jpg

Would you happen to know the reason why the US models are ported in front and the European counterparts in the back?

What are the advantages of one versus the other if there are any?
 
Does anyone know how these Infinitys compare to comparable ADS soundwise? How about Cornwalls? Sorry for all the questions, but I live in the sticks and don't get out much!
 
Would you happen to know the reason why the US models are ported in front and the European counterparts in the back?

What are the advantages of one versus the other if there are any?

Front ported are easier to place in the room. If they are located away from walls there isn't much difference between front and rear ported speakers. If you move them closer to the front wall, rear ported speakers become bass heavy, sometimes boomy, while front ported remain relatively flat. My speakers are positioned 4 feet away from walls, so for me it makes no difference. For smaller rooms, front ported or sealed is the way to go, unless you prefer a stronger bass response.
 
Comparing

Does anyone know how these Infinitys compare to comparable ADS soundwise? How about Cornwalls? Sorry for all the questions, but I live in the sticks and don't get out much!

I have the a/d/s / 12909/2 and a pair of Infinity K-9's The ads would probably be similar in sound to maybe the k-7 or 8 but with a good amp I think the infinity k-8 has a more robust sound. The ads are much , much easier to drive and do sound remarkable....so I personally would not make the switch until you get a very powerful amp to start with . Then the k-8 would probably sound better than the ads 1290. The k-9 is a whole lot better with a good amp though it is also a much larger speaker so it isn't really an apples to apples comparison. If you have the larger ads 1290 and up you have a very good speaker system already. With the infinities you also need a capable amp which sometimes costs as much or more than the speakers themselves....
 
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