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Infinity RSII - $500

mythless

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For those in the Manitoba area looking for a refoam project, this looks quite interesting. They are the original RSII, so cone midrange and a single EMIT. All it needs are new surrounds on the woofers.

I don't know the value of these speakers, but price seems to be on the high side but might be reasonable at $500.

http://winnipeg.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-electronics-Infinity-speakers-W0QQAdIdZ416574063

Never heard the EMIT before or big Infinity. But, I've read they're nice.
 
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Reading the listing, it must have been writen by a 15 year old.
"Solid oak defraction wings."
"Subwoofer rubbers."...there's so much wrong with those two words I won't bother to elaborate.
I agree, a bit pricey too.
 
Reading the listing, it must have been writen by a 15 year old.
"Solid oak defraction wings."
"Subwoofer rubbers."...there's so much wrong with those two words I won't bother to elaborate.
I agree, a bit pricey too.


Well, I won't comment on the owner's description but it's a bit of a rarity in these parts.
 
Five hundred dollars is a bit of cash but not "pricey" for those.
They very rarely come up for sale and for what I've seen in my area Craigslist asking prices never seemed to be below $650-800.
Mine were curb alerts but I've found them to be audio works of art. Keepers:)
http://www.infinity-classics.de/mod...6/Reference-Standard-II/RS_II_Brochure_01.jpg
http://www.infinity-classics.de/mod...6/Reference-Standard-II/RS_II_Brochure_02.jpg
http://www.infinity-classics.de/mod...6/Reference-Standard-II/RS_II_Brochure_03.jpg
 
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There is great irony in the fact that people will call $500 "pricey" for those (although they usually sell in the $400-600 range, so it seems like fair market value to me), when SONICALLY speaking, they compete head-on with speakers that cost THOUSANDS, and are one of the great bargains in all of audio. I can't think of a generally more under-valued speaker, in terms of the sound quality that it is capable of producing.

Yes, Dahlquists and TimeFrames and some others are also generally good bargains...but they do not compete with the RS IIs, either in bang-for-buck nor in absolute sound quality.

I think the RS IIs remain so cheap because of factors OTHER than how they sound, including:

1. They are big and awkward to pack for shipping or to move around. People don't want to deal with the hassle and expense of moving/shipping them, which keeps sales local and prices down.

2. Low WAF. Women (alas, including my wife) tend to find them too big and "ugly". Men don't usually have that problem. :D

3. They need SPACE. You need a big enough room so that they can be pulled several feet into the room, and away from the side walls, in order for them to "do their stuff" properly. Try to put them in a too-small room, and you won't know what they are capable of.

4. They need POWER. That is, you have to have a high-current-capable amp that can safely drive into a 1-ohm load for relatively sustained periods, to safely power these above low-volume listening levels. Otherwise, you'll hear clipping and distortion on the way to a damaged speaker and/or amplifier. This really limits the amps you can choose from, and most of the ones that will qualify, are expensive. Expect to pay a couple thousand dollars just to be able to use these $500 speakers, unless you're lucky.

If any of these factors is a deal-breaker in your situation, then do NOT get these speakers. If not, however, RUN to grab the first pair you can find in good enough shape. You won't regret getting these speakers.

I've had a couple dozen other speakers over the past seven years since I got my RS IIs, and have auditioned many, many more at various shops and exhibitions and friends' places, and NONE have replaced my RS IIs as my all-time favorite speakers. (Admittedly, the Sequerra Signatures give them serious competition, as did a few megabuck systems in showrooms that you'd add two zeros on the price tag for...:yes: :D)

BUT make sure you're okay with the four points mentioned above. These are not the best speaker choice for everyone, in every situation.
 
When a pair of RS II's were listed locally a few years back, my consideration was that I wanted RS IIa's or b's with EMIM's instead of the poly cone mids and so even though they were reasonably priced and sat on CraigsList for a really long time I held out. The IIa's or b's that I wanted never showed up so when a pair of RS 2.5's came available I went for them instead and am not sorry that I did. Since then I don't think I've seen a pair of IIa's or IIb's listed locally or even another pair of II's.
 
Just for clarification, I said a "bit" pricey, knowing some have bought them cheaper.
I passed on a pair last year priced at $500....but not because of price.
I didn't have enough power to run them properly.
I may as well explain the "subwoofer rubbers" comment while I'm here.
There are no subwoofers in the RSII. The woofers should have foam surrounds.
The midranges should have rubber surrounds.
 
Reading the listing, it must have been writen by a 15 year old.
"Solid oak defraction wings."
"Subwoofer rubbers."...there's so much wrong with those two words I won't bother to elaborate.
I agree, a bit pricey too.

He spelled diffraction wrong, but the term "diffraction wing" comes straight from the Infinity literature, and they are solid oak. As to "subwoofer rubbers," OK, you have a point there. I would buy them in a heartbeat if I were up there.
 
If I had the power source I might have considered it, but priorities have shifted. I still think it's a fair deal if all the drivers are good. Lol i still think about it.
 
Two EMITs per cabinet as mentioned in the ad, rather than the one cited in the original post. Sorry mythless, I couldn't resist piling on with everybody else.

As I've learned here, poor spelling doesn't stop with teenagers, but goes right up through old age. The calling a woofer a subwoofer thing is a bit more limited, but Craigslist has taught me that it goes into the thirties for many.

I've had good luck with Yamaha's MX-1, M-80, and M-70 driving these speakers. The M-80 and MX-1 aren't exactly cheap (although not too much considering what you might pay for other capable amps), usually between $500 and $1000, but the M-70 can often be had for less. In fact I think I saw one in BarterTown recently for $200.

Found it. It's $200 shipped, that's a great deal!
 
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If there anywhere as good sounding as the RSIIb's I would think you would be hard pressed to find as good sounding pair of speakers as these. I have spent very little time listening to my RSIIb's but from the little that I have they are quite impressive.
 
He spelled diffraction wrong, but the term "diffraction wing" comes straight from the Infinity literature, and they are solid oak. As to "subwoofer rubbers," OK, you have a point there. I would buy them in a heartbeat if I were up there.
I figured everyone here would catch the poor spelling on "dEfraction" so I didn't elaborate on that one while trying to explain/redeem myself.
 
Two EMITs per cabinet as mentioned in the ad, rather than the one cited in the original post. Sorry mythless, I couldn't resist piling on with everybody else.

As I've learned here, poor spelling doesn't stop with teenagers, but goes right up through old age. The calling a woofer a subwoofer thing is a bit more limited, but Craigslist has taught me that it goes into the thirties for many.

I've had good luck with Yamaha's MX-1, M-80, and M-70 driving these speakers. The M-80 and MX-1 aren't exactly cheap (although not too much considering what you might pay for other capable amps), usually between $500 and $1000, but the M-70 can often be had for less. In fact I think I saw one in BarterTown recently for $200.

Found it. It's $200 shipped, that's a great deal!
Sadly, I noticed in a recent Parts Express catalog the use of "subwoofer" being used in listings for what most would call woofers ( individual low frequency drivers ).
I suspect it was the manufacturers wording as opposed to Parts Express.
The times, they are a changing...
 
something does not look right in the photos. mids seem to be too big. see http://www.infinity-classics.de/models/Reference-series-1+b-2-10+A+B-1981-86/index-Reference.htm

I saw that, too. Could just be the lighting angle, but definitely should be checked out before committing to buy.

That is definitely a bad lighting job. See how the top of the grill appears almost transparent compared to the bottom. At first, I thought the cloth was missing on the top part.
 
There is great irony in the fact that people will call $500 "pricey" for those (although they usually sell in the $400-600 range, so it seems like fair market value to me), when SONICALLY speaking, they compete head-on with speakers that cost THOUSANDS, and are one of the great bargains in all of audio. I can't think of a generally more under-valued speaker, in terms of the sound quality that it is capable of producing.

Yes, Dahlquists and TimeFrames and some others are also generally good bargains...but they do not compete with the RS IIs, either in bang-for-buck nor in absolute sound quality.

I think the RS IIs remain so cheap because of factors OTHER than how they sound, including:

1. They are big and awkward to pack for shipping or to move around. People don't want to deal with the hassle and expense of moving/shipping them, which keeps sales local and prices down.

2. Low WAF. Women (alas, including my wife) tend to find them too big and "ugly". Men don't usually have that problem. :D

3. They need SPACE. You need a big enough room so that they can be pulled several feet into the room, and away from the side walls, in order for them to "do their stuff" properly. Try to put them in a too-small room, and you won't know what they are capable of.

4. They need POWER. That is, you have to have a high-current-capable amp that can safely drive into a 1-ohm load for relatively sustained periods, to safely power these above low-volume listening levels. Otherwise, you'll hear clipping and distortion on the way to a damaged speaker and/or amplifier. This really limits the amps you can choose from, and most of the ones that will qualify, are expensive. Expect to pay a couple thousand dollars just to be able to use these $500 speakers, unless you're lucky.

If any of these factors is a deal-breaker in your situation, then do NOT get these speakers. If not, however, RUN to grab the first pair you can find in good enough shape. You won't regret getting these speakers.

I've had a couple dozen other speakers over the past seven years since I got my RS IIs, and have auditioned many, many more at various shops and exhibitions and friends' places, and NONE have replaced my RS IIs as my all-time favorite speakers. (Admittedly, the Sequerra Signatures give them serious competition, as did a few megabuck systems in showrooms that you'd add two zeros on the price tag for...:yes: :D)

BUT make sure you're okay with the four points mentioned above. These are not the best speaker choice for everyone, in every situation.

I've had good luck with Yamaha's MX-1, M-80, and M-70 driving these speakers. The M-80 and MX-1 aren't exactly cheap (although not too much considering what you might pay for other capable amps), usually between $500 and $1000, but the M-70 can often be had for less. In fact I think I saw one in BarterTown recently for $200.

FWIW, presently my RS-IIs sound exquisite on a very nice 70 watts per channel Yamaha CA-1000.
The first 15 watts are Class A ,however, and this amplifier seems to drive them quite easily:yes: .
 
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