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inner and outer sleeve discussion

Thunderbox said:
Mofi sleeves are very nice but they seem to be just a slight bit too large which is why they are a PITA to put back into the cover.
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Seems they are designed to work best with MoFi product as those have the inner stiffener that the LP with sleeve is placed in - then slid into cover.
 
Thunderbox said:
Mofi sleeves are very nice but they seem to be just a slight bit too large which is why they are a PITA to put back into the cover.
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I find the bunch-up problem only occurs with records that have an album cover that is slightly smaller than standard. Otherwise, no issues at all.
 
I personally prefer Sleeve City’s Diskeeper audiophile inner sleeves, which are very similar to MoFi, but just seem a bit more substantial. They’re also approximately the same price as MoFi inner sleeves, if not a bit less expensive, but they don’t bunch up in the corners. For outer sleeves, they also make an amazingly crystal clear looking “Ultimate Outer” 5 mil polypropylene outer sleeve. I still have a lot of my collection in MoFi inner sleeves, but switched over to both the inner and outer Sleeve City sleeves years ago, because I find the quality to be second to none. They also make other kinds of variations and less expensive sleeves that are also very well made. You can also order samples of pretty much any of their sleeves too before committing to a pack of 50 sleeves.
I also like to keep the inner sleeve behind the cover within the outer sleeve. This makes it easier to get at the record and also helps prevent ring wear.

Hope I was of help, and have a great week guys!
 
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Reviving this thread with a question:

Has anyone purchased the QRP innersleeves from Acoustic Sounds? I wonder are they the same as MoFI innersleeves? I think I have some QRP pressed records in my collection, not sure though.
 
I’ve got a few from QRP pressed records, and they’re basically MoFi sleeves that say Quality Records on them.
I prefer the Sleeve City inner sleeves. They’re much better than MoFi IMO, but it really doesn’t matter in the end, as long you’re using a quality inner sleeve and not those paper ones. :)
 
You may hate me, but the whole "always replace the old inner sleeve" thing doesn't convince me. Been there, done that and... finally arrived at the conclusion that the way to go to is to replace the inners only if they are extremely low quality like those used by many Eastern Bloc manufacturers - mostly thick polyethylene that may ruin the records over longer periods of time. If the old sleeve is good quality and is of particular style (such as UK EMI / Decca inners from the 1960s/1970s, sleeves with various advertisements on them) I clean them and keep them. The poly- or rice paper lining can be cleaned with isopropyl alcohol and is good to go for another 50 years. If the inners are damaged, I always have a good batch of nice, original, period-correct inners that I get from buying $0.50 records that nobody wants.

As for old paper inners with ads/company names on them I tend to put them in square HDPE bags to protect the edges from splitting under the weight of the LP.
 
hiwattnick said:
I’ve got a few from QRP pressed records, and they’re basically MoFi sleeves that say Quality Records on them.
I prefer the Sleeve City inner sleeves. They’re much better than MoFi IMO, but it really doesn’t matter in the end, as long you’re using a quality inner sleeve and not those paper ones. :)
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I used a nice poly lined innersleeve from Europe but my supply dried up so I had to switch to Mofi. Yeah paper sleeves are so abrasive I switch them out.
I scratched Sleeve City off my list of acceptable inners years ago as I found them to just be a bit abrasive and actually too small for many records. I wonder if they changed up their game in the meantime?

@Winters just so you know, the supply of what you can get over there in the EU is far far different than what is available to us in the states. There are no .50 records that can be bought here that have reusable innersleeves by the way. In my town there are no .50 records. Period. Actually most records these days the paper sleeve is the same low quality like came out of soviet era- Russia!
 
heavyrock said:
Yeah paper sleeves are so abrasive I switch them out.
I scratched Sleeve City off my list of acceptable inners years ago as I found them to just be a bit abrasive and actually too small for many records. I wonder if they changed up their game in the meantime?

@Winters just so you know, the supply of what you can get over there in the EU is far far different than what is available to us in the states. There are no .50 records that can be bought here that have reusable innersleeves by the way. In my town there are no .50 records. Period. Actually most records these days the paper sleeve is the same low quality like came out of soviet era- Russia!
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Not all paper inners are abrasive. Many higher quality sleeves from the old days were very smooth inside. In my neck of woods you see more records ruined by low quality, thick polyethylene sleeves or PVC outers than those scratched by rough inners.

Besides that, what's not to like in these designs?

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Winters said:
Not all paper inners are abrasive. Many higher quality sleeves from the old days were very smooth inside. In my neck of woods you see more records ruined by low quality, thick polyethylene sleeves or PVC outers than those scratched by rough inners.

Besides that, what's not to like in these designs?

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Nice. Impossible to find that stuff in my part of the world.
 
I've been using Sleeve City inner liners for the last 5-10 years. However, I have more than a few LP's that have liners from the Musical Heritage Society. Some of those liners are from the early 1980's. I've noticed no deterioration whatsoever.
 
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Winters said:
Not all paper inners are abrasive. Many higher quality sleeves from the old days were very smooth inside. In my neck of woods you see more records ruined by low quality, thick polyethylene sleeves or PVC outers than those scratched by rough inners.

Besides that, what's not to like in these designs?

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Yeah, in my older import records that have already come in great quality, especially poly-lined sleeves, there’s no reason to swap em out. I also like to keep original sleeves with the original LP, even if I have to swap it out, I’ll still hold on to em in the cover. Once again, if it’s of good quality to begin with, why bother changing it?
Those new polyethylene sleeves are awful. They leave a residue on the vinyl after a very short time. That Led Zeppelin box set (sorry, can’t renember what it’s called) is a perfect example.
 
JoeESP9 said:
I've been using Sleeve City inner liners for the last 5-10 years. However, I have more than a few LP's that have liners from the Musical Heritage Society. Some of those liners are from the early 1980's. I've noticed no deterioration whatsoever.
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Yup, me too. I’ve been using Sleeve City inner sleeves for many years now with no problems whatsoever.
 
There are paper inner sleeves that are white (or black) paper that feels like construction paper. They are simple and plain.

Is there any difference between those and sleeves made from high quality paper with glossy/ decretive print?

I throw away the basic ones, and I keep the nicer ones. Do they have the same rough treatment of the vinyl inside?
 
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