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Inner Sleeves

fmueller

fmueller

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I realize that the choice of inner sleeves is a very personal one, but I've narrowed it down to either 'Diskeeper 2.0 Antistatic Record Sleeves' or 'Diskeeper 1.5 Round Bottom LP Sleeve' - second and third from top of page - and would love to hear from people with a little more experience than I - that is pretty much everyone on this forum - if either one of those would be a good choice.

The convenience the rounded ones offer for sliding them back into the outer sleeve is very attractive to me, but am I giving up on too much quality for that? It doesn't say that the rounded ones are anti-static, so I am assuming they are not. The other ones are.

I'll be buying 500 sleeves, so the price is important to me, but there is virtually no difference between those two.

Frank
 
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Hello, I've never been a lover of rounded bottom sleeves, but perhaps others might like them? Since I always place the opening of an inner sleeve facing up, rather than towards the opening of a LP jacket, they might ease installation a little bit into the Jacket?

While sometimes I excersize little patience with other things in life (lol) I'm always very careful and patient when it comes to my LPs.

From what I can see on this site, and it was my choice, I'd probably pick either the Disckeeper Ultimate, or the next version down, with square corners instead.

Last time I bought sleeves, they were the Mo-Fi sleeves, and while these are nice, they are somwehat easy to curl the corners when inserting into jacket.

The downside I see with them, is the corners I've noted to be a weak area, meaning quality with slightly curled-bent corners I feel could've been slightly better in this area.

If a dealer doesn't pack properly, this seems to exasperate the issue.

Since sleeve city will send samples out, maybe best to order a few samples of each first? Mark
 
markd51 said:
4From what I can see on this site, and it was my choice, I'd probably pick either the Disckeeper Ultimate, or the next version down, with square corners instead.

Mark
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When they were available years ago, I used many of the Discwasher VRP sleeves and feel that they've held up well through the years. I will likely try some of the Diskeeper Ultimate and see how they compare.

Alan
 
OK, that was super helpful - many thanks!

Like markd51, I also like to have the opening of the inner sleeve pointing up rather than towards the opening of the cover. Not sure if the difference is huge, but it has to provide better protection not to have the openings aligned. That of course negates any advantage rounded sleeves might have.

Apart from that, I don't doubt that the Ultimates are 'the best', but if you buy 500 they are about 30c - the same as I paid for most of my records - and thus almost three times as expensive as the next down in line, which come in at 12c.

I think I'll order 500 of the Diskeeper 2.0 Antistatic. I'll let you all know how I like them once I've used them for a little.

Frank
 
The VPR are basically the same as the newer Mofi sleeves I have both original VPR and the newer ones I tend to buy the Mofi. Not cheap but then on average I have paid so little for my LP's I don't mind investing a little in protecting the nice ones.

I still need another 800 or so to catch up to the collection. So I'm doing the more often payed and the artists I have larger collections of first. I try to keep some inner and outer sleeves on hand at all times so as I clean and listen to the odd LP it gets taken care of right away and not put off.

I figure that way storing a dirty record isn't going to hurt it so much so I'm not loosing by cleaning and protecting them slowly as I can afford it. If I were playing them or pulling them in and out of the sleeves often that theory wouldn't work out.

I figure about another 3 years of cleaning and sleeving and I should be pretty well caught up.

Since I plan on maintaining my collection around 2200-2400 LP's High grading and sorting out the ones I'm not really into Once I have them all cleaned and sleeved it will be a simple matter to maintain the collection.
 
I believe you are correct Mark, that the old Discwasher VRP, and new Mo-Fi Sleeves are one and the same.

FMueller, the reasons I always slid in Inner Sleeves with the opening facing up, was less chance of dust intrusion, and the other, was having the LP roll right out if you accidently held the LP Jacket the wrong way.

I can certainly understand the reason of cost, especially considering a large initial order to catch up.

Being into Analog seriously for over 35 years, I think I've just about seen them all, including the old poly lined Rat Shack Paper Sleeves, which had gold dashed lines on the outsides of them.

In truth, most of my collection now resides in Mo-Fi Sleeves, but I still have some less expensive Sleeves that were a Poly Lined White Paper Sleeve, and the quality was very good, and I've never had problems with these.

I had bought a couple hundred years ago from MusicDirect when I lived in Chicago, and the thing I noted about these particular quality lined Sleeves, was that a stack of 100 laid very flat, they were not all "puffy", and warped-wavy looking like some others I've seen.

Typically, I've seen quality come, and go over the years, and I've also seen MusicDirect carry some real junk as well. More than one time I've returned Sleeves to MusicDirect, both in person years ago, and more recently, with a Mail Order, in that thier so-called Japanese Resealable Outer Sleeves appeared to be bootleg, I was not at all happy with them, even though they sent me another 100 free.

Firstly, they bent the first order of 100 in 1/2, and then shipped the second order the exact same way, even after I specifically told them to pack in a larger box. They got back all 200 at my cost to ship.

While the Mylar material appeared similar, they were not the same, the resealable strips were poor, not sticky enough to firmly hold, even after one opening.

Elusive Disc had the proper "real" Japanese Outer Sleeves, was much more money, but I'd rather have the real deal, than a knockoff that doesn't do what I want it to.

As I previously said, I feel there's nothing really wrong with the Poly Lined Paper Sleeves, provided they are of high quality. Some of mine are probably anywhere from 10-15 years old, still look like the day I bought them, have held up perfectly, they've done thier job admirably, and will probably last another 2-3 decades! Most importantly, they have protected the LP, and I see no downside that they contain paper on the outside.

For a penny each, plus I'm sure reasonable shipping, it might be wise to get a few of each of every sleeve that Sleeve City carries?

I've never ordered from Sleeve City, but I've heard nothing but good about these folks from others. Mark
 
Definitely makes sense to align the inner sleeve upwards. If I interpret the site correctly though, the rounded sleeves are supposed to go inside a regular paper inner sleeve that presumably came with the record in the first place?
 
Klownschool said:
I have gone though a few hundred of the MoFi sleeves and I like them a lot.
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I've been using some "styled" like the mofi sleeve, and have been very happy... until I actually handled a "real" mofi sleeve. My future purchases will be mofi sleeves, period.
 
Just changed over to the MoFi's here. Before that I used poly lined paper.

have a few rounded ones but was never a big fan.
 
Sleeve City is where I get most of my replacement sleeves. Never had a bad experience with them - recommended!
 
I hate to piss on your picnic, but I just bought some used LPs with Discwasher brand anti static sleeves in them, which had been there for quite a while. The LP jacket and disc were in great shape, but the Discwasher sleeves were cracking and tearing with little effort - they seem to deteriorate over time.

Maybe they are good for the LPs, though, and cut static.

Anyway, heads up!
 
operaman said:
I hate to piss on your picnic, but I just bought some used LPs with Discwasher brand anti static sleeves in them, which had been there for quite a while. The LP jacket and disc were in great shape, but the Discwasher sleeves were cracking and tearing with little effort - they seem to deteriorate over time.

Maybe they are good for the LPs, though, and cut static.

Anyway, heads up!
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Interesting - wonder what would make them do that. I have some that are probably 25 years old and they're still in good shape. I guess I need to keep an eye on them from here on.

Alan
 
:scratch2:Yeah - I have seen them survive with different results. It may have something to do with moisture....?.... or how they are stored... or maybe not all Discwasher sleeves are created equally or with the same chemical ingredients.
 
In the late 60's they sometimes replaced the standard paper inner sleeve with the nicer-looking slicker inner sleeve, usually with artist photos/lyrics/notes. Does everyone consider this still paper, still likely to cause paper damage? Do you keep it because it has lyrics/photos/notes on it, but keep it outside your brand-new inner sleeve of choice? I'm wondering if I'm wasting a good paper+plastic inner sleeves, when this slicker paper would be fine.
 
I personally am partial to the paper sleeves with poly lined insides. Sleeve City has these for a reasonable price. I wonder two things: are they "anti static"? and, will the 'poly' stuff inside have any negative effect on the vinyl? I have classical LPs from the 70s and 80s that have left streaks on the edge of my vinyl. I still have not figured out how to clean that off.
 
Most of my LP's are still in the original inner sleeves. Of course, the records usually need cleaning with the CFB or MoFi brush to removed particles from inside the sleeve. Well, I use the brush anyway whether needed or not.

I recently bought a supply of poly-lined inner sleeves from BagsUnlimited. They appear to be of good quality and I'm pleased with them. Another advantage of BagsUnlimited is that they have free shipping.

At this point, I usually just replace the inner sleeve when it's worn or damaged. I probably won't start replacing the sleeves in general until I finally get or build a RCM.

Concerning MoFi sleeves, I will probably try them in the future. They seem to be highly regarded here. I have been very pleased with their record brush.

As a final note, I also keep my inner sleeves with the opening facing up when in the jacket. In addition to keeping dust out and accidental drops, I feel it reduces the chances of damage. Back in college, (34 years ago, hard to believe), I kept the openings on the sleeves facing the opening. That way, I could remove the record without removing the inner sleeve from the jacket. However, it didn't take long before I realized that I was putting scuffs, minor scratches on the record by sliding it on the edge of the jacket.:tears: Lesson learned. From that point on, the opening has been up.:yes:
 
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