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Installed phono shorting plugs - no difference noted, but not surprised

tourmax

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When I picked up my Sansui 8080DB, it was in a pretty "abused" state. I knew it was euchred when I bought it and was planning to rebuild it anyways. The basic unit was there, but anything resembling how Sansui shipped it in '78 was long gone.

I noted in pictures and Sansui literature that these originally came with shorting plugs on the "unused" phono inputs:


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That's in a different model Sansui, but same idea.

They're mentioned in the owners manual as well. Meant to help prevent "cross talk" or hum on the high gain phono sections. I figured if they bothered to mention them in the owners manual, I might as well try some. It' s not like it's very expensive to pick up a handful of them.

I don't use either phono input (preamps into the aux in), so I shorted them both.

And.......Nothing. No change in sound in any way. Ear right up to the speakers and still nothing.

Had the wife come in an do a "blind" listen as I installed and removed the shorting plugs (making sure she couldn't see).

Still nothing.

Not really surprising as my system had little to no noise floor before I had even started with the shorting plugs.

Since there was no change and I already had them, I just left them in there. Sansui put them in there originally, so installing them now at least can't hurt anything.

The package I bought had more that just the 4 phono inputs needed and their center posts are removable, so I turned the rest into essentially "dust covers" and installed them on the used inputs:

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No one will ever see them, but if someone does for some reason and asks, I can make up something like "it shorts out the flux capacitors and reduces the harmonics of the input crystals for better noise floor performance" or some tongue in cheek BS like that! Just a little fun with friends sometimes....

They also satisfy my tendency towards "shiny" things.

Has to be functional, but if it can be functional and shiny, I'm in!

LOL!
 
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He is also using pre out 1.

but a nice set of pre-power jumpers would be a nice improvement.
Line level out is to a powered sub that accepts line level in and has it's own adjustable crossover.

Nothing wrong with the factory jumpers.

If the oem jumpers give people the "heebie jeebies" because of material/size, they best not open the case and look inside or they'd go absolutely apoplectic.

New jumpers would be a "looks nice" addition, no impact on sound concerns.

But I'm also not objectionable to a "looks nice" addition as long as it remains "transparent". I just don't have any objection to the factory jumpers or how they "look"....
 
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My manual also states to use them on all INPUTS that are not being used. Guess they can help cure a humm issue, or crosstalk.
My pre only had 2 of the factory ones in it, like you got the same ones from Amazon. Also found some that look like the vintage ones. Not sure they really did anything. Used the pins for inputs, pulled out the pins for any output.

Also my sub manual states to use grounded plugs on unused RCA. There has to be something to it.

However, for a test, I turned up my pre-amp all the way on a un used sections, without and with the covers. Weirdly, the noise was far less with them installed over not having them. In my case, they did lower the noise floor.

Another good use for them is swapping cables blindly. You can feel the open RCA vs the covers, much easier to swap cables without pulling out the units.
 
As you can see in the picture above with the stock plugs, not all the inputs (on my 8080DB) are supposed to get shorting plugs. Owners manual states this as well IIRC.

That amazon add is a little funny:

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Lowest signal loss? It's a shorting plug...what signal loss?

;)

Good point on the cable swapping, never considered that. Although I don't swap things around much....
 
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