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Just bought a restored Grado Lab Series wooden tonearm

Marc - Just wondering... Have you any direct experience with the vintage Grado arms? Can you offer your personal insight on how well it will work with my 8MR/MCZ?

This will be my first time using a uni-pivot.
 
My first TD-124 came with the Grado arm I swithched it over to my Rek:

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and am slowly working on a Garrard 301 project that will use the Grado transcription tonearm.

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Me <-- I like the Grado arms.
 
I have always found wood arms to be fascinating. I have thought about the Grado in the past. I own the Woody from Pete Riggle and been very happy with it.

I have always thought this arm to be interesting, and it seems to have some inspiration from your Grado. The price is fairly reasonable given that it is new. They used to be cheaper, but he seems to keep refining the design and these additional improvements always add up to a bit more cost.

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But it is an interesting arm....but not quite the one I would look at for installing on my 401.

Regards
Mister Pig
 
beatcomber said:
Marc - Just wondering... Have you any direct experience with the vintage Grado arms? Can you offer your personal insight on how well it will work with my 8MR/MCZ?

This will be my first time using a uni-pivot.
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I have no direct experience with them. However, Joe was a proponent of hi-compliance at the suspension doughnut for a long time. You shouldn't have any trouble controlling the suspension in the MCZ
 
When I was young and stupid (1971) I sold a Grado Lab Series table and arm so I could buy a Pioneer PL12D. It had two motors and a massive flywheel below the plinth. :cry:

I don't know what the effective mass of that beautiful arm is, but it ain't low or even medium.
 
Jeff K said:
When I was young and stupid (1971) I sold a Grado Lab Series table and arm so I could buy a Pioneer PL12D. It had two motors and a massive flywheel below the plinth. :cry:

I don't know what the effective mass of that beautiful arm is, but it ain't low or even medium.
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Although the arm looks heavy, I don't believe it's above light medium in effective mass.
 
Jeff K said:
When I was young and stupid (1971) I sold a Grado Lab Series table and arm so I could buy a Pioneer PL12D. It had two motors and a massive flywheel below the plinth. :cry:
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marcmorin said:
Although the arm looks heavy, I don't believe it's above light medium in effective mass.
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Everything I've read around the 'net indicates that these arms are lighter than their appearance suggests. Presumably, after 50+ years the wood has dried out somewhat and the arm is even lighter today than it was in 1961.
 
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SENATOR
High Output Moving Coil
Frequency Response: 18 Hz. - 24 kHz.
Transmission Principal: Moving Iron.
Channel Separation at 1 kHz.: 20 dB.
Input Load: Any value above 5 k Ohms..
Output at 1KHz 5CM/sec.: 6.0mV.
Recommended Tracking
Force: 3.0 Grams.
Stylus Type: Elliptical.
Impedance: 950 Ohms.
Resistance: 950 Ohms.
Compliance CUs: 8x10-6 (Operating Range Only).
Stylus Replacement: No User Replaceable Stylus.
Mounting: Standard 1/2" (12.7mm) Mounting Centers.
Net Weight: 5.5 grams.
The SENATOR

"The Grado SENATOR stereo cartridge is an extremely high quality unit, employing the moving coil principle. This electro-dynamic stereo cartridge uses an entirely new method of measurement, which automatically corrects for vinyl resonance problems in musical recordings. Many years of watch-making and electronic experience insure precision manufacture of the highest order."
 
beatcomber said:
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SENATOR
High Output Moving Coil
Frequency Response: 18 Hz. - 24 kHz.
Transmission Principal: Moving Iron.
Channel Separation at 1 kHz.: 20 dB.
Input Load: Any value above 5 k Ohms..
Output at 1KHz 5CM/sec.: 6.0mV.
Recommended Tracking
Force: 3.0 Grams.
Stylus Type: Elliptical.
Impedance: 950 Ohms.
Resistance: 950 Ohms.
Compliance CUs: 8x10-6 (Operating Range Only).
Stylus Replacement: No User Replaceable Stylus.
Mounting: Standard 1/2" (12.7mm) Mounting Centers.
Net Weight: 5.5 grams.
The SENATOR

"The Grado SENATOR stereo cartridge is an extremely high quality unit, employing the moving coil principle. This electro-dynamic stereo cartridge uses an entirely new method of measurement, which automatically corrects for vinyl resonance problems in musical recordings. Many years of watch-making and electronic experience insure precision manufacture of the highest order."
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Yep, that one......the Model "A" holds the patent for stereo moving coil.

no affiliation, and this is the base model......the "Senator" was the "Signature" of its day.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-Grado...538?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19fad1333a
 
marcmorin said:
since you speak japanese......koetsu. (wink wink wink )
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そうかな〜

It's certainly a beautiful cartridge, from a purely visual aesthetic point of view. Very "modern." I love the parallel array of the output pins.
 

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