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JVC AX-R97: No bias adjustment?? Output transistor... Upgrade?

kasbah512

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I started trying to repair this receiver, and I'm concerned for a few reasons. Primarily that there is no DC bias adjustment, and considering I had some blown transistors, including the outputs that I replaced (for some with a 50% higher gain).

For the most part, everything is functional, except the fact that when there is no load on the speaker output I get the volume indicator showing that there is some output. I'm also waiting on new capacitors for this unit, and I'm assuming that since we may have had some over voltage issues, it may fix that issue...

I have read that there wont be an increase in power output from increasing gain of output transistors, but this doesn't quite make since to me.... I've read that the "entire circuit determines the output" but i suppose something isn't clicking. I could understand maybe a safety issue related to this, but not a failure to increase power. I tried to match the replacement transistors on the pre-driver and power amp as close as possible to gain, but they aren't exact replacements. The outputs are what scare me most I suppose. The gain on the originals was reading 98 hFE and the new ones are around 150. While I could find exact replacements for them, I really don't want to throw more money at this thing. It was a goodwill find.

1) Have I done something that may affect dc bias, as this unit has no adjustment?
2) Have the changes I've made posed a safety risk?

This amp is for a friend of mine so I definitely don't want it to go up in smoke. I want them to have a quality receiver that will hopefully last until the new caps go bad. This beast is at least 125 WPC, but I'm convinced its putting out more.
 
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Gain of a transistor is primarily driven by the circuit and feedback loop. Just cause you use a higher gain transistor doesn't mean you will get more output, just like using higher wattage transistors wont give you more watts..

That unit seems to have bias trimpots
R751 R752

What it doesnt have is DC balance pots, which happens with many of the solid state amps in the 80's. If DC balance is not right, replacement of the differential pairs with a nice matched set usually fixes the issue.
 
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Please don't play with the bias trimmers expecting to adjust the offset. THEY ARE DIFFERENT THINGS! If you adjust the bias too high, and BOOM. You will take many semiconductors out in a millisecond.
 
Gain of a transistor is primarily driven by the circuit and feedback loop. Just cause you use a higher gain transistor doesn't mean you will get more output, just like using higher wattage transistors wont give you more watts..
After pondering on it a bit what makes the most sense is that I would reach the clip point sooner, assume everything is "balanced". (Not dc offset in this case, but rather from an engineering standpoint.) This is what I'm trying to clarify. I don't have an osciloscope, but the most notable difference is that the volume indicator reaches peak at half volume. It was early this morning so I haven't put it on full volume yet with speakers hooked up. To me, this indicates one of two things. There is more power being supplied(quicker at least and potentialy clipping quicker), or the reading is off from the changes I made
 
Please don't play with the bias trimmers expecting to adjust the offset. THEY ARE DIFFERENT THINGS! If you adjust the bias too high, and BOOM. You will take many semiconductors out in a millisecond.
I see now. It was early, but I did find it odd that they wanted a non zero value for the reading. I haven't touched them yet and I probably won't, but I do appreciate the ample warning.
 
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