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Kenwood KA-7100 recap-refurb

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Roger2 - I've learned a lot by reading your posts. Especially appreciated are the explanations which outline your thinking process -- these are good teaching points. The detailed pictures greatly help.

Regarding the foam blocks - I have been trying to remember if the two 7100's I restored had these, and I can't quite remember. One of them, however, did have foam atop of the two filter caps.
 
Thanks for all this roger2. I have a 7100 and will use this thread, and others in the future, when I'm better at all this electronic stuff. Right now I use mine with EV Wolverines and Jazz is amazing sounding. I can't imagine how much better Jazz would sound after some of these upgrades and such. I do very much like the sound this unit gives. Nicely done.

S.J.
 
Awesome thread. I have just won a refurbished KA 7100 on eBay and am anxiously waiting for delivery tomorrow. Your thread kept me excited about it. The amp comes with a detailed refurb bill and I look forward to letting her rip!

I haven't owned a decent amp and speaker in 25 years and it was high time I got back in the game, ah ah!
 
Superb write-up Roger2 ! I'm relatively new on the DIY scene, and just starting what will hopefully be a similar type of rebuild on a 1985 Sony TA-F222ES, so I particularly appreciated the detailed & logical explanations for your component choices versus their location & function in the circuit, especially the selection of different cap grades, and thermal solutions, etc. - your attention to detail is impressive, and clearly visible in your work.

I frequently see reference to selecting the appropriate grades of capacitor according to function, but rarely have I seen such clear examples, where I can refer back to the schematic and understand not only what you've done, but also why. Your choice of capacitors for particular circuit locations is very useful and educational - I'd love to see much more of this level of detail generally, and if you have a full list of the cap grades used versus their locations I think it would be very informative for many DIYer's, not just the Kenwood owners...

Looking forward to your future rebuilds......
 
Awesome thread. I have just won a refurbished KA 7100 on eBay and am anxiously waiting for delivery tomorrow. Your thread kept me excited about it. The amp comes with a detailed refurb bill and I look forward to letting her rip!

I haven't owned a decent amp and speaker in 25 years and it was high time I got back in the game, ah ah!

CanyonCarver...apologies for my belated reply. Good to hear that you are "back in the game" and hope that you are enjoying your KA-7100:thmbsp:
 
I want to thank Roger2 and leesonic for your work on the Kenwood KA-7100 recap and modifications. I used both of your posts to recondition a cosmetically mint condition KA-7100. I am very pleased with how it turned out, just sounds great. Thanks again to you guys that really seem to know what you are doing. I am new to the game, but I am pretty good at soldering and following directions.
 
@ 70MG - Thanks for your comments. Good to know that another vintage Kenwood has been refreshed and will survive for another generation. :thmbsp: Glad that this thread was of help to you.
 
<I would be interested to hear from others working on a KA-7100 whether the support foam is intact or missing. And if it is missing, what is the condition of solder joints near the front corners of the board?>

First off, many thanks. Great thread. It was a terrific help. Thanked Lee for his, too.

Support Foam was there -- what little remained. All three pads were shrunken and disintegrating. Only picture I have is of this one of the three, which had dislodged and somehow landed amidships atop the output transistors here...

Kenwood KA-7100 PCB Mount 4.jpg

Solder joints did not seem to have suffered from PCB warp due to lack of supports. Hard to understand the design flaw; engineers could they not come up with a way to support this board?!

I propped up my board in a different way and am reconsidering how to do this.
 
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@Spenser I am glad that you found this thread to be helpful in some way :) And yes, leesonic's KA-7100 threads (and his others) are a great resource.

Thanks for responding to my inquiry and posting pics of your solution...hard to believe that 5 years has passed since I last posted in this thread.

I agree with your approach to prevent further warping of the board, but not attempting to straighten it back to original which might stress the solder joints as well as the board itself. Along that same line of thinking, going forward I will try not to remove the bottom cover of my KA-7100 at all, unless absolutely necessary. Because each time the bottom is removed it allows the board to flex just a little. And no, I don't know why the designers chose foam for support of those floating corners. But they would never have guessed that those units would still be in service 40+ years after they left the factory. The foam did do its job for quite a long time.

As for your support solution I have a couple of thoughts. The first one being that I am no expert, as this is kind of in the realm of mechanical engineering. I don't know how much pressure the PCB can take, or how much flex the solder joints can withstand, etc. I like that the old caps you used provide a lot of surface contact area to the PCB which, I think, could be a fairly brittle material. It appears that the caps may contact a track or two on the PCB. Don't know whether the track is ground only, or if some other tracks are also contacting the body of the cap. Being super OCD as I am, I would probably put a layer or electrical tape between the sleeve of the cap and the PCB. That may not be necessary if the plastic sleeve of the cap is intact, I don't know honestly. As far as the plastic stand-off, of course plastic is the preferred material for this type of application. I am not clear on the size or shape of the proposed stand-off, or its diameter. If the diameter of the stand-off was similar to, say the diameter of the #6 screw head in your pics, I would worry about pressure possibly breaking off the corner of the PCB. It may be that I am not fully understanding the concept.

Spenser, I do not know your experience level with soldering. Personally I would take a very close look, with a magnifying glass and (for me) a couple pairs of glasses, and good light, and from more than one angle....at all of the joints in the amp, but particularly the joints near the corners of that main board. Bad joints can be tricky to see. Sometimes a very subtle, easily missed halo can be a trouble maker. Looking at your next-to-last pic, my attention is drawn to: R46 (left side), R40 (left), R30 (left), Q12 (center), C18 (left), D8 (left), D6 (left). I can't say that any of those are bad, just that I can not tell for certain from the pic that they are good.

Hope you are enjoying your KA-7100. I just put mine back into rotation today after sitting for a few months to give someone else a turn.
 
Hi roger2, time flies eh. Thank you for taking the time to give this some thought and write. Thank you for your graciousness and patience. You're right. Good grief. That idea was so dangerous I felt I had to take the pictures down for fear someone else might do something this stupid. I think I will go back and install a solution that has no chance of conducting, which was my first instinct. The thought of support surface area did not even dawn on me. Very good thinking. I have a supply of the material you used. It's good stuff. Might go with that. I think you are right that movement of the board should be avoided for possible fatigue and damage. I'll go in from topside and make the switch with care.

I had support only at the corners. I'm also going to add one, in the middle of the edge, as it was in the original design. Originally there were three pads. One for each corner and one in the center of that free-floating front edge of the PCB.

I'm decent on soldering. Visual inspection is another matter. I very much appreciate your focusing in. I will take a look; put this in my notes; and keep an eye. I will also try and be better disciplined in the future. I MUST start doing a better job at close visual inspection in my written plan, and follow-through! (When I'm on top of my game I use a jewelers loop plus 1.5 readers.)

I like the sound of this amplifier so far. Powerful. Detailed. Neutral. Seems to remain true as volume is increased. Who knows though. By ear only. With the time and money into it, placebo and bias amok. Can't wait to hear it with KT-7500 off getting aligned. Glad you still have your 7100 and it's back in action. Thanks again!
 
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@Spenser
I did not mean to imply that you should never remove the bottom cover of your KA-7100. I only meant that in my case, after restoration and thorough checking of solder joints, and having nothing more that I need or want to do to the amp, I will plan on not removing the cover again....unless a need arises, then I will remove it of course. But that cover was on and off quite a few times before it dawned on me that leaving it alone might be a worthy goal. Please don't allow my overly nit-picky tendencies to influence you.

As for the soldering, well I don't want to turn this thread into a soldering tutorial. There is a ton of good soldering advice here on AK, youtube tutorials, and via a general advanced google search. I would suggest doing google searches on "bad solder joint", "cold solder joint", "common solder problems". Bear in mind that the examples you will see in your search will mostly be very obvious, but that even a subtle "halo", where you see a color difference but no discernible break in the solder, can sometimes indicate a source of trouble.

Yes, the KA-7100 is a good amp. It is a good design and a very popular amp with the vintage crowd. Mine sounds very nice :)

Good luck to you in your audio adventures...
 
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Great instruction. This is how we learn. Nice to have people with knowledge and experience who help others. I remember seeing what you are describing and blowing right past in haste and excitement. Project's still on the bench cabinet screws out. More work to be done. Eager to research online and take a closer look tomorrow. Thank you.
 
regulator rebuild

I wanted to give special attention to the power supply, and the warm-to-hot running regulator in particular. So I was considering ways to beef-up this area. I found this thread where EW gives instruction on KA-7100 regulator rebuilding in posts 26 and 28. Recommended were using MJE15032/MJE15033 for the series pass transistors, using series'd 14v zeners to replace the 28v D17/D18, and increasing power rating of R75/R76/R77/R78 from .25w to .5w.

This is a revision from my original rebuild where I had used two TZX14C in series which yielded final regulator output voltages of around ±28.8V. That probably would have been OK, but I wanted to try to get it closer to the value shown on the schematic, and changing to TZX14B made that happen.

I went over-kill on resistors R75/R76/R77/R78 and used some very pretty Vishay-Dale 2w, 1%, CPF series, metal films (same as leesonic in the thread linked in my OP)
Hello,
I would like to follow your advise in order to recap properly my KA7100.
Unfortunatly, I cannot find the Vishay transistor, they are unavailable on Mouser.

To replace these transistors I face 2 issues:
Conrad (French supplier) proposes a Panasonic ERG-2SJ101 100 Ω sortie axiale 2 W 5 % 1 pc(s) but as you can see it is a 5%.
Or AE proposes the Vishay resistor but 3w 1%
As i am no master at all regarding electronics, what could be done? Would there be any consequences on the above statement regarding the .5w increasing power?
What reference could replace the Vishay?

Thx a lot for your help.
Laurent
 
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Regards,
Jim
 
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