Khorn placement help please!

[Dtruck]

I’m bidding on some khorns to put in my new workshop/dudecave space. I just realized that the window placement may interfere with speaker performance in the only corners where the speakers could fit. The windows are set 46 1/4” high and 26 1/4” from the corner, and the dimensions I’m getting on the khorns are approximately 52”(high)x31.25”(wide)x28.5”(deep). By my rudimentary estimation, this means their would be a small (3”x6”) overlap between the windows and the speakers. Would this overlap make a noticeable (and by that I don’t mean subtle audiophile distinction) in performance? The windows are high quality and set securely enough that I’m not too concerned about rattle, but I do know that these speakers are capable of some amazing things given the proper placement, and that they might not be worth the investment if a pair of more moderately priced Cornwalls will avoid the window concern altogether. I’ve included a pic of one of the corners to give y’all a better idea of what’s going on. Thanks a bunch!

 

[Nyjblbob]

Should be fine. the top section of the K-HORN is just the backside of the horn and x-over. no sound comes out of it.
You also can seal up the window area the same way the backs of the K-Horn seals to the corners. With carpet or Rubber strips

 

[ZagatoMan]

I’m thinking. If they fit through the door then they fit.

silly answer. I just wish I had a way to fit Khorns at all!

I hope you get them, I bet they’ll sound amazing.

 

[Dtruck]

Thanks. Thought I might be overthinking it. Just needed some encouragement!

 

[Coytee]

When I had Khorns, they got in the way of the window, much like yours looks. It never bothered me. Perhaps someone more analytical or OCD might have noticed something but for my situation, they worked fine.

Push come to shove, you can always build what they call a 'false corner'. Basically an entire corner that is about 4' high (to cover the height of the bass bin) and I don't know how wide. Built I think out of 2x4 construction, complete with drywall kind of thing. You put this into your corner, then back the speaker into this and viola, you have a mobile corner you can place anywhere.

 

[Bushikan]

You should be fine. It’s only the bottom bass bin that needs to be sealed to/utilizing the corner. If you haven’t finished the room yet, just don’t put any framing around the window that would stick out and interfere with any possible overlap. (The Klipschorn is shaped like a home plate—not as deep on the sides as the dimensions might imply.) Also, keep the corners (behind the speakers) free of baseboard if you can, so that you can seal the speakers all the way to the floor (I used a combination of the wide rubber seal used for garage door bottoms and foam pipe insulation).

 

[twiiii]

You could always board up the windows. Make sure they don't rattle and are caulked well. You don't want any water leaks after installing the horns. I like the sound of the new Cornwalls but prefer the older Klipsch horns. A personal choice.

 

[Bushikan]

I’m away from my listening room, but I think the actual length of the backs of the KHorns (where they touch the walls) is only 22” per side. (26 1/4” gives you room to spare.) Also, the bass bins themselves are less than 42” tall of the 52” total height. (So, again, 46 1/4” gives you plenty of leeway.)

 

[usedto]

When Wifey and I auditioned our Khorns, they were sitting in the middle of a 3 car garage - no walls, no corners, no nothing. They sounded superb - even better when we got them home and in oddball corners.

 

[twiiii]

I would double sheet rock the wall, too, with plenty of mastic between the layers, also. We did that after pulling off the thin 1/8 th inch paneling. Makes a big difference.

 

[grindstone]

Wall construction varies so much that you almost have to try (temporarily) in a corner in your house to be able to relate to what you may/not think worth any changes when it's by the window. If the "window" is patio door, etc--well the door needs to act like a door so there are limits.

Most khorns drop pretty steep under 40Hz so it's not that bad anyway, but a lot of bass can be transmitted right though walls so sometimes people who have corners reinforce them. Flip side is a cinder block bunker placement just lights-up room modes so some "give" to walls isn't all bad. (It also doesn't mean a lot of bass doesn't get through those--density is good for transmission of LF and you can't absorb it w/o construction heroics). People hatch a wide variety of solutions for their own environments. Here's a screen of examples along with the DFH on the subject. Bass always becomes architectural in the end. "Try stuff" remains valid in audio. If you are inclined to do something custom based on your trials, there are many experienced people with good ideas and other examples of false corners on the Klipsch forum.

I swear I remember him saying 4 ft is good somewhere but can't turn-up the quote. Lastly, it may not be related to anything, but if you eyeball the chamber that seems close.

Sincere congrats on your acquisition and please keep us posted.

 

[Bushikan]

FWIW, I have mine in a 19th-century house with horse hair plastered interior walls and wood clapboard outside. Acoustically, for some reason, this combo works very well. And keeps most of the sound inside. I also have floor-to-ceiling built-in bookcases filled with heavy art books. These perform well as room treatments.