Klipsch and OJAS 2nd collaboration

another OJAS?
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I should have just left them like this instead of cutting the veneer for the horns. I basically turned a pair of Heresy clones into decorator cabs by milling off the flange for the speaker grilles, then added another slab of 3/4" MDF for damping and ersatz bracing and cut in the other horn openings after I veneered it all. The MDF made it quite a bit heavier, but the sides are significantly stiffer.

This bigger H1-9040P 1" horn has better polars than the H1SC-9040. Raw frequency response with driver below:

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here's the 9040 paired with a JBL d250, in network, I believe

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I wish I had better documentation, I was working on this with Boxler, just after my involuntary retirement January before last and was becoming increasingly ill, although I wasn't fully aware of the scope at the time. My notes were negligible and I kept thinking I'd remember, but each morning, I had to reengineer what I'd done the previous day, just to figure out where I was starting. I think we worked on these and the 3-way "mini" horn for 4-6 weeks; it should have only taken a single week. I was definitely not in a good place. :confused:
 
regrettably, I don't have my measurements or notes handy, they're buried in a text chain with Boxler that goes way back, or on a hard drive that's not connected to anything. I recently ditched the cloud and consolidated files from 5 laptops and recycled several, but I've been lagging on setting up my NAS. I got halfway there by setting up a Plex server,, but I lost interest after that, mainly due to image files. I got things catalogued from 2010-2020, but during covid, the amount of photos, memes and assorted files exploded exponentially and I burned out. I'll be spending the next 5 weeks on my ass, so I'll get back to it eventually.

adding my memory, we tried a D250 clone but got nowhere- it was way too strong for the frequency band I wanted to hit with the mid horn and rather than raise the crossover to 9k for the tweeter, which was where that diver wanted to cross, I returned it and used the JBL. I believe we used some sort of notch filter to tame a hump around 2500Hz and a falling response higher up. at any rate, we did make it work after some fettling. I think I mentioned elsewhere that if I had to do it over again, id use a Celestion 9040P and make it a 2-way, crossed at 1200Hz with a B&C DE10 compression driver. We tried it with a larger Goldwood horn and it worked rather well.

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D250 clone but got nowhere- it was way too strong for the frequency band I wanted to hit with the mid horn and rather than raise the crossover to 9k for the tweeter, which was where that diver wanted to cross, I returned it and used the JBL. I believe we used some sort of notch filter to tame a hump around 2500Hz and a falling response higher up. at any rate, we did make it work after some fettling. I think I mentioned elsewhere that if I had to do it over again, id use a Celestion 9040P and make it a 2-way, crossed at 1200Hz with a B&C DE10 compression driver. We tried it with a larger Goldwood horn and it worked rather well.

That makes sense. I tried the JBL when it was still Selenium D250x and I think I still have the PRV-Audio D250ph. It would definitely benefit from a notch filter to make is useable.

I have never used a DE-10 to 1200Hz though seems perfectly capable.
 
For reference, a JBL/Selenium D-250X on a Klipsch K-700 horn. No crossover.

Crossed over at 700Hz (or higher, but not lower) the response curve should flatten out and be usable to 6~7kHz.


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I like the D250 a lot in my 3-way bookshelves. Regrettably, I lost pretty much every photo I've taken in the past 20 years when my partner tripped on a cable and yeeted the hard drive I'd transferred everything to, to the floor a few weeks ago. All of my speaker measurements were on that drive as well. I might be able to find some screenshots if I parsed the conversations with Boxler from February of last year, but that's a lot of work. At any rate, it's a dang good driver.
 
Using K-55s with 40 year old or more diaphragms might not be the best thing to use as a testing standard.
 
On modern equipment, the differences are more easily seen:
Orange: K55V (push pin)
Purple: K55M
Green: JBL/Selenium D250-X
Horn: K700

As long as you are not trying to use the D250-X below 500Hz, it is an excellent driver, regardless of cost.


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