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Klipsch McLaren Forte IV. Good idea or Jump the Shark decision?

haha.. sorry, my bad for not realizing; I should have known.

And you summed up the absurdity quite perfectly. The intersection of F1 fan, audiophile and wealth is apt to be very very small. And smaller still when the buyer would have to have a significant other who would allow such monstrosities in the house.

Would’ve been interesting to see THAT Venn diagram presented at the marketing meeting. :)
there's an additional intersection: Audiophile: Wealth: F1 Fan: and poor taste
 
Lol!

as a fan of Klipsch, these are almost embarrassing

not a fan and such a juxtaposition to their beautiful Heritage wood veneers.
 
If no one would buy them they wouldn't make them, unless it's more of a stunt.

I won’t go so far as to say “no one” will buy them, but I don’t think they will sell as well as they hoped. And even if they do sell all they produce, the question remains: How many people were turned off to the Klipsch brand in this quest to appeal to a few dozen F1 fans?

I’m sure if Mercedes-Benz came out with an “SL 500 - Teletubbies Edition” they would sell a few. But such a co-branding exercise would probably lead to thousands of other potential buyers to cross Mercedes off their short list. This is of course an absurd example of co-branding, but you get my point.

Bottom line: I think Klipsch needs to be more protective of their brand image. A co-branding exercise that results in a few incremental sales isn’t necessarily good for the brand in the long run.
 
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I won’t go so far as to say “no one” will buy them, but I don’t think they will sell as well as they hoped. And even if they do sell all they produce, the question remains: How many people were turned off to the Klipsch brand in this quest to appeal to a few dozen F1 fans?

I’m sure if Mercedes-Benz came out with an “SL 500 - Teletubbies Edition” they would sell a few. But such a co-branding exercise would probably lead to thousands of other potential buyers to cross Mercedes off their short list. This is of course an absurd example of co-branding, but you get my point.

Bottom line: I think Klipsch needs to be more protective of their brand image. A co-branding exercise that results in a few incremental sales isn’t necessarily good for the brand in the long run.
I previously worked in motorsports marketing, specifically in racing, motorcycle roadracing and flat track, to be specific. I worked with athletes, teams and sponsors to maximize visibility and roi, to deliver value to sponsors and increase team and athlete value; I may be able to offer some insight here. Klipsch are charging a $1500 premium for a $100-200 vinyl wrap for their speakers. Naturally, they’d like to sell a few, but that’s not why they’re making them. Yes, it’s cross branding with an F1 team they sponsor and to be sure, a few f1 fans with deep pockets and poor taste will buy these. More reasonable fans will be intrigued, look into it and decide that it’s not worthwhile to shell out extra cash for some garish vinyl appliqués and will buy regular Forte’s instead. A few more will instead spend the money on Cornwalls, LaSacala and KHorns and even more will buy more budget friendly, non-heritage speakers. At the same time, they have people discussing them: three pages here and dog knows how many others are chatting on other platforms. There’s a maxim in the industry: there’s no such thing as bad publicity. While the comments in this thread are overwhelmingly jeering at the aesthetics of these speakers, we’re talking about them just the same. Nobody is saying bad things about the speakers themselves, only the polarizing graphics. If Klipsch doesn’t move them, they can remove the vinyl and sell them as seconds, quietly discount them or write them off entirely. The gamble isn’t whether they’ll sell them; that’s almost immaterial. The bet is that they’ll sell other models to F1 fans who may have been considering Warfdale, Martin Logan, Polk, B&W, Magnepan, et al. There’s a good chance that bet pans out or at least improves brand consciousness to a measurable degree.
 
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I previously worked in motorsports marketing, specifically in racing, motorcycle roadracing and flat track, to be specific. I worked with athletes, teams and sponsors to maximize visibility and roi, to deliver value to sponsors and increase team and athlete value; I may be able to offer some insight here. Klipsch are charging a $1500 premium for a $100-200 vinyl wrap for their speakers. Naturally, they’d like to sell a few, but that’s not why they’re making them. Yes, it’s cross branding with an F1 team they sponsor and to be sure, a few f1 fans with deep pockets and poor taste will buy these. More reasonable fans will be intrigued, look into it and decide that it’s not worthwhile to shell out extra cash for some garish vinyl appliqués and will buy regular Forte’s instead. A few more will instead spend the money on Cornwalls, LaSacala and KHorns and even more will buy more budget friendly, non-heritage speakers. At the same time, they have people discussing them: three pages here and dog knows how many others are chatting on other platforms. There’s a maxim in the industry: there’s no such thing as bad publicity. While the comments in this thread are overwhelmingly jeering at the aesthetics of these speakers, we’re talking about them just the same. Nobody is saying bad things about the speakers themselves, only the polarizing graphics. If Klipsch doesn’t move them, they can remove the vinyl and sell them as seconds, quietly discount them or write them off entirely. The gamble isn’t whether they’ll sell them; that’s almost immaterial. The bet is that they’ll sell other models to F1 fans who may have been considering Warfdale, Martin Logan, Polk, B&W, Magnepan, et al. There’s a good chance that bet pans out or at least improves brand consciousness to a measurable degree.


Yes, everyone here is discussing these and it will result in zero sales.
 
Yes, everyone here is discussing these and it will result in zero sales.
We’re not the target market. Many of us are owners of modded heritage speakers who will continue to mod and or purchase old speakers to mod, others have Klipsch speakers and are content. The target of this is likely people who don’t currently own Klipsch speakers and are in the market for new ones. Klipsch is currently having a moment with heritage speakers and they’re not wrong to go for it now.
 
We’re not the target market. Many of us are owners of modded heritage speakers who will continue to mod and or purchase old speakers to mod, others have Klipsch speakers and are content. The target of this is likely people who don’t currently own Klipsch speakers and are in the market for new ones. Klipsch is currently having a moment with heritage speakers and they’re not wrong to go for it now.


Good points and what I had said a few pages back.

My question is how do they market to us? We are used to buying on Craigslist and US Audiomart. They would have to sell seconds or not quite right empty cabs that can be modified. Not their target audience.
 
They don't. They alienate those of us that work on or modify their speakers. They are only interested in selling and occasionally servicing new products.
Yep. There’s a reason that we’ve been driven away. They feel that hot-rodding vintage speakers highlights their flaws and robs their income stream. They’d rather that we show our enthusiasm for the brand by buying their latest models, rather than making what we already own better, in many cases, better than the models they were producing at the time. AFAIK, Klipsch are the only speaker brand with such an enthusiastic hot-rodding culture and frankly, they didn’t know what to do about that. From the perspective of the rest of the industry, it’s a peculiar thing, although from the perspective of the automotive and motorcycle industries, it’s a thing to be cultivated and appreciated, as well as a secondary market for “upgrades“, as more than a few small companies that brand K would like to see disappear, have discovered.
 
The bet is that they’ll sell other models to F1 fans who may have been considering Warfdale, Martin Logan, Polk, B&W, Magnepan, et al. There’s a good chance that bet pans out or at least improves brand consciousness to a measurable degree.

Good points, indeed. I hope you're right;
 
The last Tag McLaren speakers I listened to were these:

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Very nice. From back when McLaren took over Audiolab.
 
When I see their marketing photo on the website my thoughts are:

1) loss of hearing in rabid auto racing fans
2) product placement in the corners of a concrete garage with concrete walls, floor, and ceiling
3) no sound treatment or absorbers in said garage

Conclusion:

The intended buyers can't hear anyway - selling to those with profound high frequency hearing loss with a fancy paint treatment seems like an unexploited niche!
 
When I see their marketing photo on the website my thoughts are:

1) loss of hearing in rabid auto racing fans
2) product placement in the corners of a concrete garage with concrete walls, floor, and ceiling
3) no sound treatment or absorbers in said garage

Conclusion:

The intended buyers can't hear anyway - selling to those with profound high frequency hearing loss with a fancy paint treatment seems like an unexploited niche!
Like all devices, that turn electricity into air motion, they want to SELL them. Niche markets exist everywhere in the world, so why not ignore the negativity of your message? Which is probably correct on all 3 counts.
 
Lol!

as a fan of Klipsch, these are almost embarrassing

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. Almost?? What does f1 racing have to do with American audio? Or any audio for that matter? And to think there was a whole team that gave approval to this idea....
 
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