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L810 dome cleaning

Dire McCain

Well-Known Member
ADS owners probably know all about those sticky cones on the ADS mids and tweeters. The pair I picked up have a lot of dust/crud on the top halves...not sure if this affects or dampens their performance...or if cleaning is worth the risk...or even id they can be cleaned at all...

anybody ever attacked this issue?
 
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I bought a pair of 1290's from a owner who had a dog. Spent an hour picking dog hair off then gave up. Whatever you do be careful; sticky domes are better'n no domes.
 
wow, what timing.

i bought a pair of L780/2's last night from a cat owner. there is some dust on the tweeter/mid/woofer that i want to clean up but any advice would be greatly appreciated!
 
Do NOT use any solvent. That sticky stuff is an inherent and integral part of the driver.

Try carefully to remove the hair with blunt nose tweezers, or low-tack tape. If you don't have low-tack tape, stick the tape to your t-shirt or jeans first- this will pick up a bit of teensy lint and reduce the overall tack of the tape.

Try that first.
 
I presume, then, that lacquer thinner is not an option? Just kidding. Wish I understood why the domes had to be sticky in the first place...what is the theory behind the practice? Are all domes sticky or just the ADS? I've never had any speakers other than the HPMs over the last 30 years, so I really don't know...

OK, so I'm in a rut.
 
...Wish I understood why the domes had to be sticky in the first place...what is the theory behind the practice? Are all domes sticky or just the ADS? ....


They're sticky in order to catch every detail and musical nuance for your presentation, as well as trap any distortion or errant notes, like a glue-style mouse trap would....
 
hmmm...i remember running across a similar substance while putting out roach hotels...
if it works for those it should trap the elusive high freqs as well...good point. great marketing angle...speakers that also rid your house of bothersome insects...when the dome is filled with crawling things, replace the dome and refresh your speaker performance at the same time...keeps the wife and the ears happy..
 
On a serious note, many domes I've come across are NOT sticky. I dunno why they used that approach. Some attempt at pliancy?
 
On another note, its always a good idea to install fresh fuses, if applicable, on your newly acquired A/D/S speakers.

Cheers.
 
Yes. First thing I did when I got them home and discovered the 3/4" tweeters were dead...both fuses blown...needless to say it made a rather large difference...could be the reason the guy sold them so cheap.

darned if they don't sound good though...dirty domes and all
 
There is some information on this in the ADS database. It was called a proprietary damping fluid I believe.
 
You're referring to the sticky stuff on the dome, right? Thanks for the tip. I'll check that out.

Yes, check out the Reference site. Look at "audio apart." It's something I provided to the site and picked up back in the 80's even though I never bought the speakers new back then. I've got a few used pairs of ADS/aDs speakers now though.
 
The sticky material was called "dome paste". I don't know what the exact composition was but it was put in in a precise metered amount and was there for a very specific reason. The cloth dome by itself was quite resonant. The original Braun domes from which the ADS was a near direct copy did not have this material on them. I often heard them referred to as "zippy" sounding. The dome coating was a damping material and it tamed the top-end resonance that that Braun tweeters had. Interestingly the car tweeters using cloth domes had the material on the inside. However, this was harder to get on consistently IIRC. Best method for cleaning is non-ferrous tweezers, a beer, & patience.
 
I'll take a chance at being shunned for this, but here's what I did. I bought a pair of L-780's from the infamous unmentionable online auction place. Tweeters and mids were not protected and had paper stick to the domes (what a surprise!). Anyway, nothing to lose right? Lacquer thinner to the rescue. Using a very small paint brush, the kind you would use to paint a model car not a wall, I carefully dabbed it on again and again. It softened the damping material and I was able to get almost all of the crap off the domes. You must be extremely careful not to put too much on at one time. I carefully brushed and smoothed out the coating. Unfortunately, one of the mids was so bad that I ended up taking off about half the coating. It looked bad and I thought I would have to replace it. The tweeters and the other mid came out good, almost look new. Thought about this for a long time trying to figure out what to do. These are back-ups to my main speakers so they just sat for a while. One day, I don't remember what triggered the thought, I remembered that rubber cement had a similar consistancy to the dome coating. I bought some and tried it, blended right in with the original coating. I used a small brush again and carefully applied it. The cement I used was Elmer's rubber cement available at Walmart, Walgreens, etc. The damaged mid looks very good, not perfect. The rubber cement stays pliable and seems to be very similar to the original coating. I would only recommend this for sitiations like mine where it is a last resort attempt at a fix. I saved four expensive drivers for a couple bucks and an hours work.

It worked for me, but If you try this you are on your own. I offer no guarantee it will work for you. Do this at your own risk!!!!!


Jon
 
It is similar to the substance that is put on pleated woofer surrounds and some doped cloth surrounds of days gone by. I wouldn't mess with it. I've got a pair of doped cloth surrounds that attract debris like magnets. I had a pair of L810's with the metal grilles which allowed dust to get through. The domes weren't pretty. Why bother trying to clean them? One slip and you may puncture the dome. Doesn't have any audible effect on the sound quality anyhow. Use some fine angled tweezers to pull off the largest bits, then put the grilles back on and think nice thoughts.
 
I knew an experienced audiophile who swore by windex sprayed on a folded paper towel. Not soaked but pretty damp with the stuff. He said he had used it with tacky domes and it was effective and harmless for removing dust. I had some ATC speakers with a big sticky dome midrange that was quite dusty. I never had the nerve to try the windex out, so no personal experience. Maybe try it out on a friends ADS dome when he's not looking! :no:
 
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