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Lafayette Beats Yamaha?????

vintagestereo

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Believe me, no one could be more surprised than me when I A/B'd my recently acquired Lafayette LR-120DB against my modded Yamaha R-2000. What prompted this comparison was yrly's suggestion that Luxman may have made the LR-120DB for Lafayette. I have always enjoyed the sonic accuracy of the R-2000 (although, as we all know, it has the overheating problems unless modded) so I was curious how the LR-120DB would stack up.

Well, in two words, VERY WELL! The more I listen to the LR-120DB the more I am inclined to believe that it is a Luxman-sourced unit, however, I'm still not about to open the NIB Luxman R-1120 I have under my bed to find out.

The Yamaha has a clean, almost "antisepetic" quality to it sound. The highs are crystal clear, the mids are full but the bass is a tad "thin", accurate but with no "meat". You are left "wanting".

The highs on the LR-120DB are, for the most part, a tad "sweeter" sounding, with little "veiling". The mids are just as convincing as the R-2000, however, the bottom end is "fuller" and "richer" than the R-2000's. This is not just my opinion, but the consistent opinion of some friends who I invited to listen to both of the units.

The LR-120DB was pretty much Lafayette's last gasp. There was one more line of Receivers after it, named "Criterion" and then......gone! Too bad, because the LR-120DB is an exceptionally nice receiver which is certainly competitive with other 125 wpc units and has some unique features, like variable FM muting, thrown in.

As for the R-2000, despite its getting beat, it is still a favorite of mine if for nothing more than it was Yammie's "most powerful" receiver, if not completed developed. The follow-up R-100 cured most of the problems, but was significantly less powerful and simply didn't have the visual present of the R-2000.
 

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vintage:

How did you A/B these receivers?

Do you have a speaker selection switch? How are you certain that both amps are putting out similar voltage?

Regards,
Jerry
 
onplane said:
vintage:

How did you A/B these receivers?

Do you have a speaker selection switch? How are you certain that both amps are putting out similar voltage?

Regards,
Jerry

I have an A/B junction left over from my stereo selling days. It was more of a "fun" test than a "strict" listening exercise. Units were played at equivalent moderate volume levels on some ADS L730 speakers using a Denon DCD-1560 CD Player with split output. Differences were quite obvious. It was FUN!!!!! :music:
 
Yamaha have a very specific family sound. I prefer to call it neutral. Bass is there if bass is in the program.
I love my Yamaha gear, but the R-2000 is sitting without a job. I may put it back with the JBL L100 Century systems, where it had been before and with the JBL bass was fine, not overly pronounced, but solid--so it does deserve a speaker system that makes for that golden synergy.
 
bully said:
Yamaha have a very specific family sound. I prefer to call it neutral. Bass is there if bass is in the program.
I love my Yamaha gear, but the R-2000 is sitting without a job. I may put it back with the JBL L100 Century systems, where it had been before and with the JBL bass was fine, not overly pronounced, but solid--so it does deserve a speaker system that makes for that golden synergy.

Bully -- I believe me, I have no complaints with the sound of the R-2000. Just that the LR-120DB was more enjoyable to listen to overall. get your Yammie hooked up to the L100s and let the old timers have some fun!!!!! :music:


-- Chris
 
vintagestereo said:
Believe me, no one could be more surprised than me when I A/B'd my recently acquired Lafayette LR-120DB against my modded Yamaha R-2000. What prompted this comparison was yrly's suggestion that Luxman may have made the LR-120DB for Lafayette. I have always enjoyed the sonic accuracy of the R-2000 (although, as we all know, it has the overheating problems unless modded) so I was curious how the LR-120DB would stack up.

Well, in two words, VERY WELL! The more I listen to the LR-120DB the more I am inclined to believe that it is a Luxman-sourced unit, however, I'm still not about to open the NIB Luxman R-1120 I have under my bed to find out.

The Yamaha has a clean, almost "antisepetic" quality to it sound. The highs are crystal clear, the mids are full but the bass is a tad "thin", accurate but with no "meat". You are left "wanting".

The highs on the LR-120DB are, for the most part, a tad "sweeter" sounding, with little "veiling". The mids are just as convincing as the R-2000, however, the bottom end is "fuller" and "richer" than the R-2000's. This is not just my opinion, but the consistent opinion of some friends who I invited to listen to both of the units.

The LR-120DB was pretty much Lafayette's last gasp. There was one more line of Receivers after it, named "Criterion" and then......gone! Too bad, because the LR-120DB is an exceptionally nice receiver which is certainly competitive with other 125 wpc units and has some unique features, like variable FM muting, thrown in.

As for the R-2000, despite its getting beat, it is still a favorite of mine if for nothing more than it was Yammie's "most powerful" receiver, if not completed developed. The follow-up R-100 cured most of the problems, but was significantly less powerful and simply didn't have the visual present of the R-2000.
I agree with your impressions of the R-2000. Even with the variable loudness cranked, the bass is still thin. The mids and highs are accurate. IMO, this is a perfect sonic package for my bass heavy ADS speakers.
 
SoCal Sam said:
I agree with your impressions of the R-2000. Even with the variable loudness cranked, the bass is still thin. The mids and highs are accurate. IMO, this is a perfect sonic package for my bass heavy ADS speakers.

Sam -- I agree that the ADS speakers are a bit Bass heavy, unless you get them about 3 feet off the floor.
 
vintagestereo said:
Sam -- I agree that the ADS speakers are a bit Bass heavy, unless you get them about 3 feet off the floor.
I'll have to try some stands. However, this will make them top heavy in the earthquake prone SoCAL.
 
SoCal Sam said:
I'll have to try some stands. However, this will make them top heavy in the earthquake prone SoCAL.

I remember some ADS ads that had some speaker-specific stands that were canted back a bit so they were more stable. I'd love to find a pair of those.
 
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